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Re: Colhouns of Donegal
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 25 January 22 05:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi Daniel

Sadly The expertise in searching deeds in FamilySearch belongs to Gilby not me. Like you I have not worked out how to do this myself. But then I haven't tried very hard either. I can follow the links though!. I have simply copied some extracts he as sent me privately.

What I did do for myself is look up the PRONI, E Catalogue and type in either "Colhoun" into the search,  or the place name. The latter can be very useful.  Then see what turns up. Many hits will not have any text but some do. The ones referring to leases can be helpful.

The D series of documents are from Lord Abercorns papers. Of course it helps that John Colhoun who died 1755 was an agent of Lord Abercorn as his name comes up often.

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Re: Colhouns of Donegal
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 25 January 22 09:39 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for writing back Linda! I will poke around some more on PRONI - that's actually where I found the 1768 Freeholder list placing the Colhouns in Carnone 58 years prior to what I had been able to do before.

It's a struggle to find any vital records for the 18th century online!

Many thanks again. :)

Daniel

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Re: Colhouns of Donegal
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 30 January 22 12:35 GMT (UK) »
A quick start for searching the deeds is to check the Registry of Deeds Index Project:
https://irishdeedsindex.net/

But they only have some of the deeds transcribed.  To search properly you need to look through the Land Index or Grantor Index filmed on Familysearch.  Here is a list of all the films:
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/185720?availability=Family%20History%20Library

From 1708-1832, each deed has a book number, page number, and memorial number.  Once you find a memorial reference which looks interesting you can manually look it up in the relevant volume (e.g. see page 8 of the above link for the first of the memorial books).

After 1832 the memorials are numbered by year, book number, and memorial number (slightly different, but same idea).

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Re: Colhouns of Donegal
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 30 January 22 16:47 GMT (UK) »
Thank you very much for this message. I will continue my research following your helpful information. Many thanks again!

Daniel


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Re: Colhouns of Donegal
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 27 February 22 18:38 GMT (UK) »
My Great Grandfather Was the Rev David Rankin Baird born 1866 to William Baird and Eliza Gourley (Tyrone) of Milkisle, Letterkenny and educated from  a young age by the Reverend John Kinnear. Do not know what the Rankin connection is. Maybe could have been his grandmother maiden name?

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Re: Colhouns of Donegal
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 27 February 22 20:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi John

So there is a definite Rankin-Baird connection as posted earlier by Gortinanima. Also Tristram Carey married another Baird.

The Rev Samuel Rankin (c1686-1756)
Samuel Rankin of Corncamon (Taughboyne), Co Donegal Clk will dated 3 Jan 1756 proved 27 March 1756
Wife Jane Rankin orse Baird.
Daughters – Catherine, Isabella, Jane, Mary
Sons Samuel, John, William and eldest son Thomas
Son in law – John Colhoun
[Betham Will extracts]
Note: The Rev Samuel Rankin married Jane Baird. She was the daughter of Thomas Baird. In his will Thomas Baird left his land of upper Cloghogal equally to his daughter Jane Rankin and Tristram Cary of Tonagh. The Rev Rankin‘s eldest son Thomas Rankin took possession of Upper Cloghogle. He and Tristram Cary held them in common and divided the lands from the high road to the top of the mountain. [D623/A/37/4].


I think Gilby knows a bit about rev John Kinnear or I am confusing him with another Rev.

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Re: Colhouns of Donegal
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 27 February 22 21:25 GMT (UK) »
My Great Grandfather Was the Rev David Rankin Baird born 1866 to William Baird and Eliza Gourley (Tyrone) of Milkisle, Letterkenny......

Can you confirm the source of where David Rankin Baird had his full name?

A David Baird (Beard) was born on 8th April 1864 to William Baird and Eliza Jane Gourley at Milk Isle.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1864/03616/2334628.pdf
https://www.townlands.ie/donegal/kilmacrenan/conwal/letterkenny-rural/milk-isle/

In 1901 census he was David Baird, a presbyterian minister.
House 7 in Fechey (sic) (Gaevaghy, Down).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Gaevaghy/Fechey/1205394/

As David Baird, he married Minnie Erwin in 1896 at Cargycreevy Presbyterian Church.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1896/10489/5819654.pdf

1911 census as David Baird
House 20 in Fedany (Garvaghy, Down).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Garvaghy/Fedany/214096/

PRONI Will Calendars  https://apps.proni.gov.uk/WillsCalendar_IE/WillsSearch.aspx
Full Abstract :
Baird David of 3 Church Road Newtownbreda county Down retired presbyterian clergyman died 4 April 1944 Probate Belfast 5 September to John A. Corbett farmer and Thomas S. Davison garage manager. Effects £1826 9s. 5d.


GRONI Online  https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/

David Baird   4th April 1944        79   Male        Lisburn


Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo

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Re: Colhouns of Donegal
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 13 March 22 11:48 GMT (UK) »
Fasti of the General Assembly 1840-1870:
JOHN KINNEAR, s of Rev James Kinnear, Lower Clonaneese; b 1823; educ OCB GC 1844; lic Dungannon 2 Nov 1847; ord I Letterkenny 27 Dec 1848, res 1899; D.D. (Washington) 1874; MP (Liberal) for Donegal 1880-85; m 1865 dau of William Osborne, Springtown House, Derry; d 8 Jly 1909.

Fasti of the General Assembly 1871-1890:
DAVID BAIRD, b Milk Isle, Letterkenny 7 Apr 1864; educ MCD, ACB GA(1885); lic Letterkenny 4 May 1887; ord Garvaghy 20 Mar 1888, res 31 Dec 1931; Clk Banbridge Pres 1894-1944; m 1896 Mary, dau of Rev R.S. Erwin, Moira; d 4 Apr 1944.

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Re: Colhouns of Donegal
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 13 March 22 12:25 GMT (UK) »
Looking for “David Rankin Baird”…

Marriage of Thomas Baird to Annie Donaghey at Raphoe in 1865:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1865/11561/8253119.pdf

Birth of Catherine Baird at Derrymore in 1870:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1870/03360/2232090.pdf

Ulster Examiner and Northern Star, 25th Oct 1873:
BAIRD – October 21, at Derrymore, David Rankin Baird, aged 6 years and 9 months; also, Catherine Baird, aged 3 years and 9 months.

Deaths of David Baird and Catherine Baird at Derrymore in 1873:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1873/020680/7256140.pdf

Died on the same day and place, but registered on different dates by different people?  I can’t find a birth record for David Rankin Baird – without it, I wouldn’t be sure he was from the same household.

Birth of another David Baird at Derrymore in 1877:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1877/03023/2107869.pdf