new beta on ancestry dna results

[sugarfizzle]

This will potentially annoy a lot of people and could backfire on ancestry -
They are giving suggestions from people's private trees attached to their DNA, which will certainly help, but some people may opt out.
 

But the remedy is there. A tree can be searchable or not searchable. If people don't want suggestions taken from their private tree just make it non searchable

But I also noticed 2 suggested potential ancestors for me. I got a bit excited, thinking I might have a breakthrough on one of my lines, a suggested DNA match from these 2.

The suggested match turned out to be my first cousin.
The suggested potential ancestors were taken from my private tree which is not attached to my DNA results.
These 2 don't appear on my DNA tree, as I am working on them, didn't want everyone copying potentially incorrect information.

Some people will be very annoyed if and when they find out - but they probably won't find out if they haven't had their DNA tested.
 

Might the suggestion here be to keep your tree private and searchable as now but to do your “thinking” on a separate private and non-searchable tree and that why your musings will not end up as suggestions to others.
I do appreciate the problem of the potential parents hints Ancestry give and have on a few occasions given them feedback as to why their suggestions are wrong but never got any feedback from them on the points I made.

Some excellent suggestions, David.

I'll see how things go with Beta mode, things might change.

I am not particularly bothered, it's other people that may be - if this leads to widescale private non searchable trees, we will all be much worse off, I think.

Regards Margaret

[Sinann]

Had a better look today, I appear to only have ThurLines and there I have 15 matches. Just went through them all and it was great, a few I already knew and had been in contact with but a couple were non responders to messages so I was able to work out where they fitted, a few others were up to 5th to 8th cousin which I wouldn't even have looked at before.
I'm happy with how it worked.
Just a pity no one from my father's side has a tree so no matches on ThruLines on that side.

[sugarfizzle]

Sinann, Are you looking in the right place?

Any page > Top middle> Extras> Ancestry Labs > My Tree Tags and New & Improved DNA Matches, both beta

You say you only have 15 ThruLine suggestions. Do you meet the following criteria?

1) AncestryDNA results linked to a public tree or a private searchable one
(2) DNA matches also linked to a tree, and
(3) A tree that extends back at least 3–4 generations

Regards Margaret

[melba_schmelba]

Had a better look today, I appear to only have ThurLines and there I have 15 matches. Just went through them all and it was great, a few I already knew and had been in contact with but a couple were non responders to messages so I was able to work out where they fitted, a few others were up to 5th to 8th cousin which I wouldn't even have looked at before.
I'm happy with how it worked.
Just a pity no one from my father's side has a tree so no matches on ThruLines on that side.

Sorry to be a party pooper , but I really think people need to not give in to the 'rush' of having these new promising ancestors appear. Really this Thruline is the exact same thing as Ancestry tree hints, with the only difference that it is now tied to DNA. We on the board have pretty much condemned tree hints as an almost unmitigated disaster, spreading wrong links multiple times over with the ease of being able to copy onto your own. In my case at least 60% of these Thruline matches are wrong, even when multiple DNA matches are showing, because people have simply chosen the wrong person, but with the same name and rough birthdate, and proceeded to trace back 100+ years, providing zillions of other exciting Thruline matches, but I know they're all wrong .

[Gadget]

Totally agree. melba.  Also, the My Heritage 'Theory of Family Relativity ' appears to be the same!

Gadget

[Sinann]

Had a better look today, I appear to only have ThurLines and there I have 15 matches. Just went through them all and it was great, a few I already knew and had been in contact with but a couple were non responders to messages so I was able to work out where they fitted, a few others were up to 5th to 8th cousin which I wouldn't even have looked at before.
I'm happy with how it worked.
Just a pity no one from my father's side has a tree so no matches on ThruLines on that side.

Sorry to be a party pooper , but I really think people need to not give in to the 'rush' of having these new promising ancestors appear. Really this Thruline is the exact same thing as Ancestry tree hints, with the only difference that it is now tied to DNA. We on the board have pretty much condemned tree hints as an almost unmitigated disaster, spreading wrong links multiple times over with the ease of being able to copy onto your own. In my case at least 60% of these Thruline matches are wrong, even when multiple DNA matches are showing, because people have simply chosen the wrong person, but with the same name and rough birthdate, and proceeded to trace back 100+ years, providing zillions of other exciting Thruline matches, but I know they're all wrong .

I'm sure your correct but I didn't just slot them in willy nilly I checked all the shared matches, it is possible they have connected themselves to the wrong person but they do at least connect to the correct family,
and I've only listed them under their believed ancestor on my offline tree so I won't be sending anyone astray.

[Sinann]

Sinann, Are you looking in the right place?

Any page > Top middle> Extras> Ancestry Labs > My Tree Tags and New & Improved DNA Matches, both beta

I'll check that later, I did find it last night but couldn't remember how I got there, wouldn't work at the time though.

[Sinann]

Sinann, Are you looking in the right place?

Any page > Top middle> Extras> Ancestry Labs > My Tree Tags and New & Improved DNA Matches, both beta

You say you only have 15 ThruLine suggestions. Do you meet the following criteria?

1) AncestryDNA results linked to a public tree or a private searchable one
(2) DNA matches also linked to a tree, and
(3) A tree that extends back at least 3–4 generations

Regards Margaret

I don't have a subscription so I only have a tree linked to my DNA and yes it goes back 4 generations

[melba_schmelba]

Totally agree. melba.  Also, the My Heritage 'Theory of Family Relativity ' appears to be the same!

Gadget

Thanks . I am worried we are all going to go a bit mad with a new toy...but it's just the same old thing as before with a posh new name, which they no doubt took weeks to come up with, with numerous meetings and cake served .

Had a better look today, I appear to only have ThurLines and there I have 15 matches. Just went through them all and it was great, a few I already knew and had been in contact with but a couple were non responders to messages so I was able to work out where they fitted, a few others were up to 5th to 8th cousin which I wouldn't even have looked at before.
I'm happy with how it worked.
Just a pity no one from my father's side has a tree so no matches on ThruLines on that side.

Sorry to be a party pooper , but I really think people need to not give in to the 'rush' of having these new promising ancestors appear. Really this Thruline is the exact same thing as Ancestry tree hints, with the only difference that it is now tied to DNA. We on the board have pretty much condemned tree hints as an almost unmitigated disaster, spreading wrong links multiple times over with the ease of being able to copy onto your own. In my case at least 60% of these Thruline matches are wrong, even when multiple DNA matches are showing, because people have simply chosen the wrong person, but with the same name and rough birthdate, and proceeded to trace back 100+ years, providing zillions of other exciting Thruline matches, but I know they're all wrong .

I'm sure your correct but I didn't just slot them in willy nilly I checked all the shared matches, it is possible they have connected themselves to the wrong person but they do at least connect to the correct family,
and I've only listed them under their believed ancestor on my offline tree so I won't be sending anyone astray.

That's the thing - I have one ancestor, that if I didn't know otherwise, it would look like an absolute cert, and on Thrulines it is showing as a DNA link to three other people all neatly tracing back to this one person. But that person is the mother of someone of the same name, not our ancestor. They didn't find the right link because I found the baptism from a local baptism index rather than the big websites. People should always try these local indexes such as family history society or private indexes if a search fails on the main sites. People may be under the impression that because there is a DNA link that gives these ancestors credence, I am afraid it doesn't at all.