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Re: new beta on ancestry dna results
« Reply #45 on: Wednesday 27 February 19 23:13 GMT (UK) »
Thrulines is only showing one of my families. The other thingy, which I found but now can't, wouldn't work.
Where did I find it?

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Re: new beta on ancestry dna results
« Reply #46 on: Thursday 28 February 19 04:28 GMT (UK) »
Found a very odd one on my husband's side.

Ancestry is suggesting that his grandfather was not Joseph A 1881 - 1956, but was John A 1857 - 1932.

Leading back from this, he is supposedly descended from Z family from Lancashire and Derbyshire.  I have his grandfather documented and sourced, originally from Wakefield, Yorkshire. I must have got it wrong, I'll change everything.  I'm getting many suggestions for husband's incorrect line in Thrulines, which is annoying.  I have sent feedback, but don't know if it will get sorted out.

Certainly work to be done, but seems to be working well for me mostly.

Regards Margaret

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This will potentially annoy a lot of people and could backfire on ancestry -
They are giving suggestions from people's private trees attached to their DNA, which will certainly help, but some people may opt out.

But I also noticed 2 suggested potential ancestors for me. I got a bit excited, thinking I might have a breakthrough on one of my lines, a suggested DNA match from these 2.

The suggested match turned out to be my first cousin.
The suggested potential ancestors were taken from my private tree which is not attached to my DNA results.
These 2 don't appear on my DNA tree, as I am working on them, didn't want everyone copying potentially incorrect information.

Some people will be very annoyed if and when they find out - but they probably won't find out if they haven't had their DNA tested.

Margaret
STEER, mainly Surrey, Kent; PINNOCKS/HAINES, Gosport, Hants; BARKER, mainly Broadwater, Sussex; Gosport, Hampshire; LAVERSUCH, Micheldever, Hampshire; WESTALL, London, Reading, Berks; HYDE, Croydon, Surrey; BRIGDEN, Hadlow, Kent and London; TUTHILL/STEPHENS, London
WILKINSON, Leeds, Yorkshire and Liverpool; WILLIAMSON, Liverpool; BEARE, Yeovil, Somerset; ALLEN, Kent and London; GORST, Liverpool; HOYLE, mainly Leeds, Yorkshire

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Re: new beta on ancestry dna results
« Reply #47 on: Thursday 28 February 19 06:34 GMT (UK) »
The DNA Geek has some articles covering the new features

https://thednageek.com/2019/02/
West Berks- Appleton Bailey Barlow Bartholomew Carter/Cook Childs Corderoy Coxhead Froud Fryzer Griffin Harrison Head Noke Richmond Salter Sawyer Shrimpton Sidwell Stratton Stroud Wernham Wheatland
South Bucks- Miller Mitchell Horton
Cornwall- Aunger Baker Grigg Luxton
Hants- Hine/Hind
South Oxon- Applebee Barlow Clark Edginton Elliott Fryzer Simmonds Toby
Suffolk- Chilvers Darby Philpot Russell Stone
Surrey- Edwards Knight Lanaway
Sussex- English Exeter Jeffery Knight Mugridge
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Re: new beta on ancestry dna results
« Reply #48 on: Thursday 28 February 19 07:30 GMT (UK) »
You do appear, at least currently, to be able to go back and forward between the old & beta system, as I have now done it.

Helpful for me, as I can't see how to filter matched by geographical region in the beta version, which I found very useful in my investigations!!
Allison - Rumford Stirlingshire & Ireland
Quinn - Rumford, Glasgow, Monklands & Tyrone
Convoy - Rumford, Monklands & Tyrone
Burke - Glasgow, Clifden Galway
Duffy - Cleland Lanarkshire, Monklands, Falkirk, Ireland
Curran - Cleland, Ireland
Reynolds - Cleland, Shettleston, Tollcross, Antrim
McDermott - Cleland, Shotts, (London)Derry


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Re: new beta on ancestry dna results
« Reply #49 on: Thursday 28 February 19 07:43 GMT (UK) »
It's going to take up a lot of time. With so many new leads, my starred matches has gone up dramatically and I haven't got through many of them as yet. The work still has to be done, as many have said, of verifying their suggestions.

Add in the new Ancestry tags, which are slso very useful. They are working well, the few that I have added so far, but will also be quite time consuming.

New & Improved DNA Matches, Thrulines and Tags are all good additions to aid research, but I still wish they had a chromosome browser.

Regards Margaret
STEER, mainly Surrey, Kent; PINNOCKS/HAINES, Gosport, Hants; BARKER, mainly Broadwater, Sussex; Gosport, Hampshire; LAVERSUCH, Micheldever, Hampshire; WESTALL, London, Reading, Berks; HYDE, Croydon, Surrey; BRIGDEN, Hadlow, Kent and London; TUTHILL/STEPHENS, London
WILKINSON, Leeds, Yorkshire and Liverpool; WILLIAMSON, Liverpool; BEARE, Yeovil, Somerset; ALLEN, Kent and London; GORST, Liverpool; HOYLE, mainly Leeds, Yorkshire

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Re: new beta on ancestry dna results
« Reply #50 on: Thursday 28 February 19 08:21 GMT (UK) »
Has anyone read through to the final sentence of thednageek link given by stevemiller three or four posts back?  Is an ancestrydna sub just around the corner?

Jane :-)
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BARR, BARRATT, BERRY, BRADLEY,BRAMLEY,BRISTOW,BROWN,BUGBIRD,BUTLER
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COLLASON,COLLYER,CORKERY
DARLING, DENYER,DICKERSON,DOLLING,DURBAN
FARMER,FURNELL
GIBSON,GILES,GROOMBRIDGE
HALL,HAMBIDGE,HARMES,HART,HICKS,HILL,HOLLOWAY
JACKSON
K*AT*S
LANCASTER,LINTON
MCDONALD,MCFADEN,MEARS,MILLARD
NICOLAS,NOAK,NORTH
PARFIT,PORTER
RIPPINGALE,ROBINS
SEARLE,SPENCER,STEDHAM
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Re: new beta on ancestry dna results
« Reply #51 on: Thursday 28 February 19 10:23 GMT (UK) »
It does say the following on DNA home page -

'Access to Thrulines Beta is available to customers without an Ancestry subscription for a limited time.'

I have a rolling subscription to ancestry so it won't affect me.

The original thread I think was about the New & improved DNA Matches beta, which might not need a subscription.

Most of my matches don't appear to have a subscription, do hopefully they will still be able to use the new system.

Regards Margaret
STEER, mainly Surrey, Kent; PINNOCKS/HAINES, Gosport, Hants; BARKER, mainly Broadwater, Sussex; Gosport, Hampshire; LAVERSUCH, Micheldever, Hampshire; WESTALL, London, Reading, Berks; HYDE, Croydon, Surrey; BRIGDEN, Hadlow, Kent and London; TUTHILL/STEPHENS, London
WILKINSON, Leeds, Yorkshire and Liverpool; WILLIAMSON, Liverpool; BEARE, Yeovil, Somerset; ALLEN, Kent and London; GORST, Liverpool; HOYLE, mainly Leeds, Yorkshire

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Re: new beta on ancestry dna results
« Reply #52 on: Thursday 28 February 19 11:01 GMT (UK) »
What I was wondering Margaret is whether AncestryDNA would become separated from the traditional Ancestry, and require its own sub.  The way things stand lots of people take a DNA test for ethnicity purposes and have no interest in family history so they don't take out a sub and after their results are in they never come back.  If the DNA test came with an inclusive sub, perhaps to trees only, for the first 6 months/1 year, in the hope of getting them hooked, I can see that when it expired some people would be prepared to pay a token amount (initially) to be able to keep checking back.  Small step then to completely separating the genetics from the paper trail.

Hope I'm not giving them ideas  ;)

If they are reading this, something I'd like to see is an indication of which of the numerous trees offered as hints has a DNA match to me, without having to click each user in turn.

Jane :-)
ALLEN
BARR, BARRATT, BERRY, BRADLEY,BRAMLEY,BRISTOW,BROWN,BUGBIRD,BUTLER
CAIN,CARR,CHAPMAN,CHARLES,CH*LTON,CHESTER,COCKETT
COLLASON,COLLYER,CORKERY
DARLING, DENYER,DICKERSON,DOLLING,DURBAN
FARMER,FURNELL
GIBSON,GILES,GROOMBRIDGE
HALL,HAMBIDGE,HARMES,HART,HICKS,HILL,HOLLOWAY
JACKSON
K*AT*S
LANCASTER,LINTON
MCDONALD,MCFADEN,MEARS,MILLARD
NICOLAS,NOAK,NORTH
PARFIT,PORTER
RIPPINGALE,ROBINS
SEARLE,SPENCER,STEDHAM
TYLER,TILLY,TUCKWELL
WADE,WAGER,WALKER,WATSON,WEBB,WITHRINGTON,WOOD

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Re: new beta on ancestry dna results
« Reply #53 on: Thursday 28 February 19 13:06 GMT (UK) »
This will potentially annoy a lot of people and could backfire on ancestry -
They are giving suggestions from people's private trees attached to their DNA, which will certainly help, but some people may opt out.
 

But the remedy is there. A tree can be searchable or not searchable. If people don't want suggestions taken from their private tree just make it non searchable


But I also noticed 2 suggested potential ancestors for me. I got a bit excited, thinking I might have a breakthrough on one of my lines, a suggested DNA match from these 2.

The suggested match turned out to be my first cousin.
The suggested potential ancestors were taken from my private tree which is not attached to my DNA results.
These 2 don't appear on my DNA tree, as I am working on them, didn't want everyone copying potentially incorrect information.

Some people will be very annoyed if and when they find out - but they probably won't find out if they haven't had their DNA tested.
 

Might the suggestion here be to keep your tree private and searchable as now but to do your “thinking” on a separate private and non-searchable tree and that why your musings will not end up as suggestions to others.
I do appreciate the problem of the potential parents hints Ancestry give and have on a few occasions given them feedback as to why their suggestions are wrong but never got any feedback from them on the points I made.
James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.