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Re: meaning of a occupational description
« Reply #9 on: Monday 28 January 19 07:46 GMT (UK) »
I think the paint splotches (if they are on their lower back) are the signs of which Ram has serviced them (the Ram having a block of chalk stuff tied to their under belly)
The ID's for the sheep themselves will be via ear tags.

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Re: meaning of a occupational description
« Reply #10 on: Monday 28 January 19 08:02 GMT (UK) »
I think the paint splotches (if they are on their lower back) are the signs of which Ram has serviced them (the Ram having a block of chalk stuff tied to their under belly)
The ID's for the sheep themselves will be via ear tags.
Just out of curiosity, are ewes a One-Ram kind of lady, or what would happen in case of a rainbow of "paint splotches"? 

F & T, you can post a snippet only of a census, or just give us the names so we can look it up.   I don't know if the abode name is showing, but this link gives names of sheep walks near Doethie Camddwr :  https://historicplacenames.rcahmw.gov.uk/placenames/recordedname/c944f914-a55c-4a26-800b-9d04a133be50

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Re: meaning of a occupational description
« Reply #11 on: Monday 28 January 19 08:23 GMT (UK) »
Hmm, I’m not sure, but I THINK that once they have “done the deed” they go off heat so the Ram is not attracted any more.

Probably a real sheep farmer is looking at this and rolling around laughing too hard to be able to type and tell us the truth.

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Re: meaning of a occupational description
« Reply #12 on: Monday 28 January 19 08:29 GMT (UK) »
My thoughts on the coloured markings on sheep found on open country, are that each colour denotes the owner of the sheep.  When they are all gathered at the end of the season, then each owner can claim his/her own flock.

I could be wrong  :-\
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Re: meaning of a occupational description
« Reply #13 on: Monday 28 January 19 08:35 GMT (UK) »
Google has the answer!  It says the "paint" is for sorting out who's sheep are who's, as these sheep walks aren't fenced, and multiple owners shared them, BUT rams also have that chalk (olden times) or dye bags around their necks (modern times) to mark the ewes.

Look at these fancy painted sheep!  https://davidmcguffin.com/daily-lfe/painted-sheep/

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Re: meaning of a occupational description
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Re: meaning of a occupational description
« Reply #15 on: Monday 28 January 19 16:29 GMT (UK) »
This is a subject I hadn't thought about for a lot of years ;D

My ex-husband, when we first met, worked for a firm (part of Boots) that sold agricultural supplies including raddles.  These are the harnesses rams wear at tupping time.  They look a bit like guide dog harnesses but serve a very different purpose.  The ram carries a coloured gunge (not a technical term) in its raddle to mark the ewes, so the farmer can make sure all the ewes are likely to produce lambs

I don't know whether the pejorative term 'raddled' derives from this gadget, but it seems plausible :-\

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Re: meaning of a occupational description
« Reply #16 on: Monday 28 January 19 16:52 GMT (UK) »
Raddled in the sense of the previous post comes from the rather crude make up worn by so many women in Restoration times.
Sometimes as make up is worn today but also to,cover up the marks left  by smallpox.
It was a whitish dense ,opaque cream ,the cheeks and lips were daubed with a red cream.
Sadly lead was an ingredient especially of the white face cream.
To be raddled was to be rather old and heavily made up,the stiff cream emphasising the facial wrinkles.
Raddle is also a red wax polish used on quarry tiles,I have some.
A Cardinal red rather than crimson or scarlet.
I suppose the other meaning could have been used for well known “Ladies of the night”!
The raddle from the ram is towards the rear end of the ewe,where the rams chest ,with the raddle pad touches the ewe.
Other marks will be owners’ marking .
The shepherd needs to know how many ewes have had  a visit from the ram,and calculate how many lambs are likely and also therefore ultimately how good the ram is .

Up North we say sheep are “hefted “ ,that means they were born and grew up on a particular hillside and never leave it unless sold .
They will often come down when they hear the shepherd’s whistle ,for dipping times or the dogs will go up and bring them down without the shepherd going up as the whistling carries very far, he can often  control things from the valley.
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Re: meaning of a occupational description
« Reply #17 on: Monday 28 January 19 20:04 GMT (UK) »
This is a very interesting thread!!   I am learning a lot!  :D
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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