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Re: Looking for George Owen Cheshire
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 29 January 19 16:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

In that case, it looks like Denis W Owen, who married Laura Wheeler in 1945 in the district of Rochford, Essex. The electoral rolls in 1960's has a Denis W Owen and Laura Owen living in Surrey area.

I can see births for Owen with Wheeler as a maiden name in Folkstone - presumably part of the puzzle - and also one in West Bromwich which was the area of Laura's birth. Laura Wheeler's birth seems to be in West Bromwich in 1925 and there is a Laura Owen who died in Brighton Sept 1973 age 48- is this her?

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Re: Looking for George Owen Cheshire
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 29 January 19 17:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi Alan I have sent you a PM regarding your last post...
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Re: Looking for George Owen Cheshire
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 29 January 19 22:26 GMT (UK) »
I contacted SOPHIEDOG by PM yesterday (since dealing with living people) trying to pindown who her ex husband was and where 'Dennis' married, etc. as I had come up with a possibility.   Tall Al is right with regard to the 1945 marriage, etc. and the 1939 entry for George R. Lane

George Robert Lane was born 29/4/1890 Cusworth (Doncaster), Yorkshire and baptised 25/5/1890 Sprotborough, Yorkshire, son of William and Jane.   He married an Alice Maude Carling in Jun.qtr. 1920 Darlington.  Alice Maude Carling was born 10/6/1884, bp. 25/6/1884 Darlington, Yorkshire - age ties in with 1939 register - she died 2/2/1956 in Knutsford Hospital, of Colshaw Lodge, Over Peover, Knutsford, Cheshire, wife of George Robert Lane, butler.   The couple do not appear to have had any children (she was some 6 years older than him and 36 when they married).

George Robert Lane then remarried to Alice Owen 1960 Westminster.   Alice Owen was born 22/5/1893, bp.14/6/1893 Chester le Street, Durham, dau. of George and Eliza.   Her age ties in with death in Dec.1978 Macclesfield and in 1939 she was single, living 10 Gloucester Street, Westminster.   I suspect it may have been some kind of boarding house as she lived there from 1935 to 1939 per electoral rolls and 5/6 unrelated people living at same address.   However, although shown as single 1939 (as indeed she was) the electoral rolls 1935-1939 show her as Mrs. Alice Owen - was this for respectability as she had a child?   I suspect it was.

SOPHIEDOG says Denis W. Owen died within last 3 years - can confirm he was living in Brighton from 2002-2014 according to electoral roll (my source only goes up to 2014).Had lived there 31 years.   His wife, Laura nee Wheeler, died 1973 Brighton.

So, George Owen was actually George Robert Lane, a Butler, born 29/4/1890 Cusworth, Yorkshire who married Alice Maude Carling 1920 Doncaster.    'Gladys' was actually Alice Owen b.22/5/1893 Chester le Street, Durham who at some point moved to London where she was from 1935 until her marriage to George Robert Lane in 1960.  He then takes her back to Knutsford, Cheshire where they both subsequently died.    Although single, from 1935-1939 she is listing herself as Mrs Alice Owen and I'm assuming this is because she has a child.  We know now her son 'Dennis' was actually a Denis W. Owen born illegitimately ca.1923 - however, there is no birth entry for him under either Owen or Lane and thus can't even confirm where exactly he was born.   

In conclusion, it seems that Denis W. Owen was told his father was George Robert Lane, Butler so had George had a dalliance with Alice Owen resulting in son Denis W. Owen or was he simply later to be his step-father?   I have suggested to SOPHIEDOG that she contacts Brighton Register Office to obtain a copy of Denis' death certificate which will have his date and place of birth.   I haven't purchased any modern day death certificates so don't know if his parents would be listed or not.

So, George Owen was and is always George Robert Lane, Gladys Owen was actually Alice Owen and Dennis was actually Denis W. Owen.

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Re: Looking for George Owen Cheshire
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 30 January 19 10:27 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much Annette7...
I can confirm though Dennis Owen died in a hospital in/near Haywoods Heath Sussex...
 I went to visit him there just a few says before he passed away .
  His daughter (now deceased) was with me at his bedside...
I believe the year was 2013/14 ?
So where would I send for his death cert ...in Haywards Heath Sussex or Brighton Sussex. ?
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Re: Looking for George Owen Cheshire
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 30 January 19 10:43 GMT (UK) »
There is a probate index for him as Dennis Owen dying in Brighton area 30 December 2014
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nbo/

  Tall Al is right with regard to the 1945 marriage, etc.

Freebmd/GRO index has him as Denis W Owen - Marriage was Sep qtr 1945. 
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Re: Looking for George Owen Cheshire
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 30 January 19 12:21 GMT (UK) »
Thank you rosie99 and Annette7...

I am now going to trace the Laura Wheeler family...
Her parents etc if possible...
Any help will be appreciated...
Thank you all...:)

As Tall Al has written Laura's birth was/seems to have been in West Bromwich 1925.
I have looked for the birth on BMD index but as I don't subscribe I can't get further than page one !!

Is West Bromwich part of Birmingham ? …

Edited...Yes I have found out it is part of Birmingham  ;D
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Re: Looking for George Owen Cheshire
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 30 January 19 14:01 GMT (UK) »
There is a probate index for him as Dennis Owen dying in Brighton area 30 December 2014
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nbo/

  Tall Al is right with regard to the 1945 marriage, etc.

Freebmd/GRO index has him as Denis W Owen - Marriage was Sep qtr 1945. 

The only thing that concerns me re. the probate entry is that it is in the name of Dennis Owen - since he was Denis W. Owen one would assume if he left a will he'd have spelt his own name correctly.

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Re: Looking for George Owen Cheshire
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 30 January 19 14:28 GMT (UK) »
There is a probate index for him as Dennis Owen dying in Brighton area 30 December 2014
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nbo/

  Tall Al is right with regard to the 1945 marriage, etc.

Freebmd/GRO index has him as Denis W Owen - Marriage was Sep qtr 1945. 

The only thing that concerns me re. the probate entry is that it is in the name of Dennis Owen - since he was Denis W. Owen one would assume if he left a will he'd have spelt his own name correctly.

Annette

There was no Will...what little money he had in bank (about £700 ) his daughter (now passed on) had it to help pay for his funeral...if I remember correctly...
Thank you all members who have helped me.
Very much appreciated... :)
Reserching / TOWNER Bishopstone and Brighton Area, Sussex / NIGHTINGALE  Warnham, Horsham,Ewhurst,Brighton / ..
Towner Bishopstone......................................................
Illson Leicestershire...............................................
ADAMS/GANDERTON/ BENNETT /TAYLOR/BROWN. Warwick Birmingham Areas.
Jane Eliza Meddows & Meddows Taylor family; Of Willoughby Waterless in the county of Leicestershire.)
COOK,Brighton / Cuckfield...