Publican Butcher and Farmer in 1851 .

[Maiden Stone]

I have a father and son who combined butcher and innkeeper in 18th century. Grandfather was also a butcher; I'm not sure if he combined it with being an innkeeper but another relative was town innkeeper after death of the former. Neither job was full-time in the small town. Wife and children would have looked after the inn when husband was doing the other job. Inventory of one of the innkeepers included animals. Testator specified that his younger daughter was to have her choice of cow or heifer. Other relatives were farmers.
Some farmers had a sideline to provide extra income and employment during slack time in winter. 100 acres was a fairly big farm in 1850s. Did he have employees or rely on family labour? What kind of farm was it?

[brigidmac]

It makes sense when you say ot like that and maybe they were sheep farmers .

Im trying to sort out these Jones people to see how they link with DNA matches in USA who have Jones born in Denbighshire
So far i cant work out who emigrated
It would probably be someone in the same generation as the publican butchers

If i can find that William born 1801 Llanmorn Denbighshire  had other children or siblings it could help
I think one of the corresponding trees had a william JONES b Llanmorn 1784 -1871

[brigidmac]

William JONES was an ag lab aged 60 in 1861
The farm on census above is run  by a John JONES its 65 acres and they had sevants to help also called Jones .
I dont know what kind of farms they were

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Thats interesting Rosie and if he was still there 5 years later obviously hadnt sold it .

I wonder if he was the Enoch Jones who died in a lunatic asylum in 1865 admitted 1862

Could be -  an 1867 newspaper ad for land for sale in Llanarmon notes that it borders land owned by the late Enoch Jones

[brigidmac]

Great find Mabel ..thanks

[brigidmac]

 I have 2 close DNA matches with JONES on their trees

1 man in USA knew very little about his father or his ancestry but gave  me 2 clues ..he was named after a boy who.d died at sea (his uncle) and his grandfather was a reverend ...i worked out his direct ancestors to the 1830.s but none seemed to match until we realised his g grandffather had married
Jane JONES ...who turned out to sister of my ggfather Abiah.R JONES

I didnt have their fathersname at time but think i found her on a census with another sister Dorcas

The other person who matches in same degree has JONES from Llanmorn but so far we cant find a match 

[jillrose]

You might like to take a look at the Abiah Jones entries on my website, taken from Clwyd FHS transcriptions.   You'll find them on page A listed under Abiah.

Jill
www.clwydsurnames.org.uk

[brigidmac]

Thank you
I got onto the sitecand looked at jones marriages

Ended up scrolling down thru the centuries from 1600 my thimb did olympic scrolling at speed ..got blocked at 1757 before i could find any Abiahs there must be an easier way
His first son with wife Ann williams was Abia David JONES also a butcher i think

[brigidmac]

Ok i found the Abiah list
There seem to be twins

And a death at 4 weeks

Im not sure how others relate to my great grand father ..he could be named after a relative

Abiah  he spelt his name with an h
His son.had no h  to distinguish them