Publican Butcher and Farmer in 1851 .

[brigidmac]

The plot thickens 1881
finds Hannah Price age 11
 (daughter of Abraham PRICE+ Martha Ann Jones?)
At the Rose and crown with grandparents Thomas and Hannah LEWIS

[brigidmac]

 can Enoch Jones b1815
be son of William b 1801 ..
brother of Joseph Jones b1827
So great uncle of Abiah

Those dates would make William a very young father .

[Mabel Bagshawe]

The plot thickens 1881
finds Hannah Price age 11
 (daughter of Abraham PRICE+ Martha Ann Jones?)
At the Rose and crown with grandparents Thomas and Hannah LEWIS

Given the age difference between Hannah and Thomas Lewis I suspect this is a second marriage for her. They are together in 1861, and given Thomas' age the marriage would have been in the previous 10 years. There is a marriage in 1856 in Ruthin district involving a Thomas Lewis and Hannah Jones

In 1851 Hannah Jones, the right age, was wife of the landlord of the Rose & Crown - Enoch Jones

[brigidmac]

Another great find Mabel
My searches aren't throwing up that marriage .I d like to find Hannah's maiden name before she married Enoch .

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Marriages Q4 1856   Wrexham   Vol 11b   p593

Bate    John        
Jones    Hannah    
Lewis    Thomas    
Thomas    Sarah        

[brigidmac]

Thanks Mabel
A DNA match to Martha Ann Jones liveS near linedelin and is going to look at graves tho I know my great grandfather had an unmarked grave ..maybe his siblings or ancestors had graves

[brigidmac]

In the last year's of his life my great grandfather lived with a
Sarah Ellen HUGHES in Llanedin

She has a grave there with Robert Hughes of Heulog
But I don't know how /if there is a family connection.

[brigidmac]

Thomas Lewis is shown as 17 years younger than Hannah in 1861
But the C1871 and C1881 have a 20 year age gap which fits her birthdate better .
They may have been living as husband and wife but I believe Enoch died in 1865  in Asylum where he was admitted in 1882

So ... not that marriage .bigamy or I have wrong death .

[brigidmac]

Update
I now have contacts with descendants of all 3 sisters of my great grandfather Abiah
Many went from farming to mining one neice even married a gold miner .

Im still interested in knowing more about these pubs and havent established exact relationshoips to *uncles David and Enoch Jones

Have several  cases of Jones marrying Jones and Roberts marrying Roberts along the lines which doesnt help .

Summary
children of Joseph JONES innkeeper butcher farmer .1824 +.rebecca THOMAS

Dorcas 1849 eloped with the carter turned miner James ROBERTS married young and had 15 children ten survived til 1911 children worked at coal pit in Atherton d 1913

*Abiah  Roger JONES b 1850  had 3 children with Ann Williams son  moved to Birkenhead married widow Mariah Smith took on two stepdaughters and couple had another 7 children

Martha Ann b 1851 m abe PRICE  emigrated to Usa

Joseph Thomas JONES b 1853 .....

Harriet Rebecca Jones m David JONES had 2 sons ...one died on boat to new life in USA