William MASON wed Mary KING circa 1833 in Tynemouth?

[jonwarrn]

Who was James Marshall of Yea?
And is this the right Joseph Mason

[JenB]

Testimony says that Joseph had suffered an accident on the railways.

As a consequence of which he was unable to sign his name! If he’d done so we might have been able to do another signature comparison 

[rosie99]

I have also seen photographs (poor quality and quite flimsy) believed to have been of Joseph that were endorsed with faded hand writing on the back stating "Joseph M North'lnd" - it was not known who wrote it nor what it signified - unfortunately I did not take copies when shown some years ago.....I have since been informed the person who had them is deceased so I cannot access them again

Maybe the 'Northumberland' was just where the photo was located.   If he was the Joseph bn Dublin who was possibly the apprentice in 1850 Northumberland newspaper report then any photo's of him would most likely be taken there

Keep safe,

Rosie

[jonwarrn]

Bit of background
Thommo, from what you have said...
Elizabeth Lowe must have married Thomas Watts in Adelaide in 1850
There is some sort of marriage record here, number 1560, she was 20 years old.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSKS-M9VV-M?i=239&cat=345079

Listed under Holy Trinity
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/345079?availability=Family%20History%20Library

Thomas died in May 1865, age 48
And said to be buried at the cemetery in Majorca, Victoria.

Joseph's daughter Mary, born in Majorca, Victoria,1867, before he and Elizabeth were married, and registered as Lowe (not Watts?)
If she died in Dec 1948 as Mary Whitford then she left a will (another very brief one), proved the following year, indexed here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6S5H-6C?i=137&cc=1393345

and the will can be seen here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSF7-BP3C?i=730&cat=1393344

So Mary must have married James Whitford in 1886, and the daughter named in the will was born in 1905 (father James, mother Mary Mason)

Age on death for the Joseph Mason of Ararat died Melbourne 1887 was 55?
John

[jonwarrn]

Was Thomas Watts killed in a mining accident?
Several reports in the papers on Trove, circa 29 May 1865. Details on his family may vary.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nbx/

Some info on Majorca here
https://www.goldfieldsguide.com.au/goldfields-towns/majorca/

[JenB]

Was Thomas Watts killed in a mining accident?
Several reports in the papers on Trove, circa 29 May 1865. Details on his family may vary.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nbx/

Some info on Majorca here
https://www.goldfieldsguide.com.au/goldfields-towns/majorca/

John you are uncovering some fascinating information for Thommo to think about!

Thommo, we are hoping you are all safe at the moment. By contrast to yours, the temperature here in Northumberland at midday is currently -3C.

[jonwarrn]

Thank you, Jen.
I'm not sure what I am doing really! Looking for some background for Elizabeth in Australia, trying to see what those two daughters of Joseph were up to, etc, in the hope that something might turn up.

Mary and her husband James Whitford had quite a few children, they were registered in the district of Majorca in the 1890's, 1900's.
Though when we can see some electoral registers (from circa 1903) they seem to listed as resident in Maryborough. 

I've got hold of an index to Maryborough Hospital admissions.
There is an entry for a Joseph Mason of Majorca in 1868.
Some things might match "our" Joseph, others do not (unless he had been leading a double life)
Or were there two similar Josephs there at the same time?

Image 4  explains what info may be given
Also, top of image 5 tells us what the abbreviations are.

Any thoughts?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSFB-M9L3-N?i=213&cat=538121

John

[jonwarrn]

Just noticed, that first Mason entry is Joseph's daughter Adelaide!
And could Mary Mason admitted in 1886 be his other daughter?

[JenB]

Any thoughts?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSFB-M9L3-N?i=213&cat=538121

Interesting! Presumably the length of time in the 'colonies' (14 years) is reckoned from the year of admission, if so he is saying he's been in Australia since about 1854. Joseph William King Mason married Sarah Blakey in November 1854.

Occupation, mariner? That fits with Joseph who married Sarah Blakey, But the Joseph who married Elizabeth in 1867 was a miner. Why would a mariner be living in Majorca, a mining town well inland??

Residence Majorca fits the Joseph who married Elizabeth in 1867.

Port of embarkation London, on the 'Andromache'.

This is like swimming through treacle!