William MASON wed Mary KING circa 1833 in Tynemouth?

[River Tyne Lass]

North Shields library is closed temporarily at the moment due to a heating problem but as soon as this reopens and I can get there I will see if I can look up this marriage. 

[JenB]

North Shields library is closed temporarily at the moment due to a heating problem but as soon as this reopens and I can get there I will see if I can look up this marriage. 

Great, thanks RTL, if you could check Thomas Blakey's occupation in particular that would be good

At least that will (hopefully) clear up if this is the same Sarah who is supposed to have died in 1854!

[rosie99]

Have found a possible birth/baptism of William MASON as 11 Apr 1803, died Jan 1872 Tynemouth but there is no corresponding Will/Probate I could see on his name and occupation; equally I do not have census access for verification at this stage so was hoping to start with his marriage to KING

This William was working in the Colliery and was married to Ann - RG10/5125 f18 p29 in 1871

[JenB]

Sarah died (believed in child birth) in Dec 1854 - could not find a death entry and there was a child born Dec 1854 (possibly Cuthbert Cook Mason), that child also died Dec so assumed mother and child both died

Just picking up this one. I can only find one birth of a Cuthbert Cook Mason, in 1842. Where did you find the information about one being born in 1854?

[JenB]

In 1857 there is the birth of a  Mary Ann Kell Mason, birth registered 3rd q. 1858, Tynemouth 10b, 113. Mother's maiden name Blakey.

This looks very much Mary Ann's baptism, at St Hilda's South Shields in August 1860. She was born 20th June 1858 (which fits with Mary Ann Kell Mason's birth registration), parents Joseph and Sarah Jane of North Shields. Father's occupation mariner.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-XC67-NV?i=540&cc=1309819&cat=1810087

If this is the right baptism it suggests strongly that Joseph was fibbing when he married Elizabeth Watts in 1867.

[ThommoS]

Thank you all sooo very much for your efforts sorting out this mess......when I started on this line some years ago I hit the 'proverbial brick wall' and moved on to others all the while collating bits and pieces....thought I'd tackle it again now with some spare time.....

I have no idea where the Cuthbert child came from but in my notes he's listed as a possible who cropped up while searching the death registrations in 1854......unfortunately I did not record the link and cannot now find it.

In tracing JWKM's history in Australia I came away with the impression that all was not quite correct from what he officially recorded. Far too many conflicting facts from his Marriage Certificates and aside from him expiring in a pub, his families were never a straight forward search - from what has been uncovered by very helpful people on this list, it is starting to unravel ever so slightly and seems he may have had a few questions to answer on his matrimonial exploits

I do appreciate all the time and assistance everyone has generously provided me....

[JenB]

I’ve got nowhere, so far, with Joseph or his parents I’m afraid.

Hopefully RTL will be able to look at Sarah ‘Blakeys’ 1865 marriage which might clarify if she was really Sarah Mason.

[ThommoS]

Also in 1861 a Mary Ann Kell, aged 3 is living with a Mary Ann Lough and her son Ebenezer Blakey in North Shields (RG 9/ 3837/ 60/14)

Finally the death of Mary Ann Lough Mason aged 9 in Tynemouth in 1867.

Am assuming that could be Mary Ann Kell Mason who died aged 9 in 1867 then??
In looking at his children born in Australia, I noted there was also another Mary, this one being Mary Elizabeth Mason (born Aug 1867, near Maryborough Victoria mother LOWE nee WATTS)....she died 9 Dec 1948 at Ouyen Victoria

It seems strange that he would name another child Mary if his other child Mary was still alive in England..(depends on her date of death). If she had died while he was in Australia then notice of that death would have taken many weeks for him to receive it considering he was probably in Australia by then because we already know he was there in July 1867? Gets stranger the more info we uncover on this family....

I could only find the 2 children he had with LOWE, Mary mentioned above and
Adelaide Ann Mason born Mar 1870 near Maryborough Victoria also - she died 15 Sep 1955 at Ararat Victoria.

[JenB]

It seems strange that he would name another child Mary if his other child Mary was still alive in England..(depends on her date of death). If she had died while he was in Australia then notice of that death would have taken many weeks for him to receive it considering he was probably in Australia by then because we already know he was there in July 1867?

You are assuming that he and Sarah were still in touch and that he was notified of Mary's death!

It's more than likely, I think, that he had completely vanished from Sarah's life some years before, as it seems likely she had married George Scrimshaw in 1865.