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« on: Friday 12 August 05 22:50 BST (UK) »
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Good morning to one & all.
I'm still on about my Francis Wenlock HOLTON. I have  a copy of his will, dated 9 days before he died. He states he was in partnership with a Ferdinand Thomas as a glass & earthenware manufactureer. Is there any more information I can try & find from these details or not? I'm just trying anything & everything for this elusive fellow. I Still can't find his birth or parents. Running out of places? Anyway thank you for reading this. Kind Regards, Stella, Queensland, Australia ;D
HOLTON - Middlesex
MASKELL - London & Essex
WENLOCK - All
CHANDLER - Surrey
ECCLESTON - Lancashire & London
MOORE - Kent
GOREHAM - All
HUDSON - Surrey
FARRAND

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Re: Partnership 1844.
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 14 August 05 16:23 BST (UK) »
Hi,

A couple of ideas:

Have you obtained his death certificate? Sometimes this can have useful info.

I take it you have the name of at least one of his children -- do you have their birth certificate or baptism register? This should give the name of Richard's wife.

Is there a location given for the Holton/Thomas company?

best,
Mike
Johnson, Thacker, Clarke, Cawthorn, Scott, Sharpe, Jordan.

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Re: Partnership 1844.
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 14 August 05 17:30 BST (UK) »
Hi -- I've found a couple of things, but don't know if you might have them already:

A marriage between Francis W. Holton and Sarah Hornet? in 1806

Some insurance records in the name of Francis Wenlock Hilton (presumably a misspelling by the indexer) in 1833.

Let me know if this is of interest.

best,
Mike
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Re: Partnership 1844.
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 14 August 05 21:22 BST (UK) »
Mike,  ;D
Thank you so much for replying! I have Francis & Sophia's marriage. It was by banns at St. Mary's Lambeth in 1823. Hder maiden name was CHANDLER. I know nothing of this family. Not long found that name. I have Francis's death certificate, tells me not a lot? The informant was a Evan Williams, who lived at 16 Beswick Street, Don't know the significance of him yet. They had 7 children, I have no birth certificates of any yet. Between them, they have moved 3 times!
As for the last bit, MIke, yes I'm definately interested in the Insurance records, (it's too much of a coincidence with the middle name of Wenlock). Once again Mike, thanks alot, look forward to the info. Cheers, Stella  ;D
HOLTON - Middlesex
MASKELL - London & Essex
WENLOCK - All
CHANDLER - Surrey
ECCLESTON - Lancashire & London
MOORE - Kent
GOREHAM - All
HUDSON - Surrey
FARRAND


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Re: Partnership 1844.
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 14 August 05 22:00 BST (UK) »
Hi,

The marriage record I have is different -- it's between

Francis W Holton & Sarah Hornet, 1806, Kensworth Hertfordshire


The insurance records can be found on

http://www.a2a.org.uk/

If you choose to 'Search A2A', then select 'Guildhall Library' in the archive location, and put 'Francis Wenlock' as the search term, that should give you the info.

Mike
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Re: Partnership 1844.
« Reply #5 on: Monday 15 August 05 20:35 BST (UK) »
Hi Mike,
thank you for your help in the insurance papers, re Francis Holton, I'm in the process of getting an 'estimate' to have copies of them sent!via A2A. Cheers. On the marriage of Francis & Sarah Hornet,  that you have, does it give you any other info at all? Now I'm curious to that one!! Once again many thanks for your time & trouble.kind regards, Stella. ;D
HOLTON - Middlesex
MASKELL - London & Essex
WENLOCK - All
CHANDLER - Surrey
ECCLESTON - Lancashire & London
MOORE - Kent
GOREHAM - All
HUDSON - Surrey
FARRAND

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Re: Partnership 1844.
« Reply #6 on: Monday 15 August 05 21:39 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Good luck with the insurance records. In fact, please do post here when you get them, because I'd be interested to know how much info they contain.


As you get back towards the C18, info on the occupation and exact location of your ancestor becomes much more important -- mainly because people moved around much less and trade becomes a better indicator of where they came from.

It might be worth checking early London trade directories to see if the business was listed.


No other info on the 1806 marriage -- it will probably be in the main church in Kensworth.

One thing you can proably rely on is that the maiden name of Francis' mother or grandmother was Wenlock.

best,
Mike
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Re: Partnership 1844.
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 16 August 05 08:04 BST (UK) »
Hello again Mike,
Many thanks for your added knowledge, it does help alot. I'll keep looking for any early trade directories re: partnership. I think that the maiden Wenlock is a pretty good bet for further back female rellies. I know they're there somewhere along the line! Once again many thanks, & I'll let you know how I get on with the Insurance papers from A2A.
Cheers & kind regards, Stella ;D
HOLTON - Middlesex
MASKELL - London & Essex
WENLOCK - All
CHANDLER - Surrey
ECCLESTON - Lancashire & London
MOORE - Kent
GOREHAM - All
HUDSON - Surrey
FARRAND

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Re: Partnership 1844.
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 19 March 06 21:59 GMT (UK) »
Re Francis Holton who married Sarah Hornet. Francis is an ancestor of my wife.  Francis married Sarah Hornet 7 April 1806 at Knebworth, Hertfordshire. Sarah was the daughter of James & Elizabeth Hornet, she was baptised 18th July 1779 at Knebworth.
Issue of Francis & Sarah                                                      Francis Holton baptised 8 Feb. 1807 Datchworth. He married 5 June 1830 Welwyn, Herts to Elizabeth Overall, daughter of James & Ann Overall, nee Ives
Elizabeth Overall was baptised 16 July 1809 at Ardley, Herts.
This Holton family stayed in the Datchworth/Welwyn/Tewin area right through to the present time, my my wife (a Holton)
was born 1939 in Welwyn Garden City.
Hope this is of interest to you.   Cheers Hatter.