Applying for an Irish passport

[alpinecottage]

Elwyn, thank you for your comments.  Grandfather's cert doesn't appear to be there as all his siblings were named on their birth registrations and also there are no certs for the surname with the correct parents in the correct time frame. 

Yes, I was hoping to avoid emailing/contacting the various offices, because Rootschatters often know the answer.  Looks like I, or my brother, will have to bite the bullet and make some enquiries when the offices are open again.

[Sinann]

With 98,544 passport applications from Britain and 84,855 from Northern Ireland in 2018 alone I'm sure they will have the answers on the tip of their tongue by now.

[alpinecottage]

I guess that suggests some people want to remain in the EU, Sinann.

[heywood]

Sinann, thank you. 

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if his birth was registered late - most of his siblings were baptised before they were born!!  ie they were baptised then when someone got round to going to the register office, the birth date was "moved" to avoid the fine.  But James doesn't seem to be there at all. (He is not the James Comer of Moyglass born about a year later, as that one died in Moyglass after my grandfather died in Manchester).

The question of whether the Dept of Foreign Affairs would accept a baptismal record remains - not much point getting official copies if we can't proceed to the passport stage.

What was his father’s occupation on James marriage certificate?
When you mention his siblings, do you have their names and residence?

[Sinann]

Numbers go up each year since the vote. Of course a lot of Irish people live in the UK so some of that number will be Irish people renewing theirs.

[heywood]

I guess that suggests some people want to remain in the EU, Sinann.

Maybe not remain but easier for travel within the EU.

[heywood]

possible baptism on Apr 21 1882 in Glenamaddy (Boynnagh)

census 1911 LINK
with widowed mother and two siblings

Most of my relatives in that area were baptised before they were born also!

This looks like that family in 1901 with a different son - Thomas but no daughter Bridget and no James.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Galway/Rohun/Lishunaheltia/1380835/

Is this your James’  family?

[aghadowey]

Thirty years ago a certificate of baptism in absence of a birth certificate (either pre-registration or non-registration) was acceptable proof of Irish birth but the rules could have changed (especially in the last few years).
https://www.dfa.ie/passports-citizenship/citizenship/born-abroad/born-abroad-citizenship-by-descent-faqs/

[barryd]

I looked up the Irish Government site for obtaining an Irish Passport.


Rule #1 in their own words

You must be an Irish citizen to be eligible for an Irish passport.