Barbara J Hilton

[heywood]

When I wrote of several Joseph Shaws, I was not referring to the one in Lyell Street. That sighting in 1925 is the only one you can rely on at the moment. I mean in the wider Liverpool area.

I have seen an extensive tree for the Joseph you have mentioned. Joseph and Elizabeth died in 1940s.
There was a child born to them in 1925 who shows in the 1939 index.
It records Joseph jnr marrying in 1943.

It does not seem to be the scenario you have mentioned regarding young Joseph.

[jonwarrn]

Hi
Re the electoral registers, if Joseph Shaw at 38 Lyell did have a wife in 1925, or acquired one later, she would only be on them if she was at least 30 years of age.
Following the extension of the vote to women over 21, the first register affected is 1929.

Joseph Shaw was not listed at 38 Lyell Street in 1924.
Which has John William Lewis Hyland, Marion Hyland, John Williams, Harriet Williams at the address. Either Joseph wasn't there or he was under 21.

1925, as heywood says, the Hylands plus Joseph Shaw (he was a parliamentary voter only)

1926, the Hylands and Joseph Shaw. Joseph is now both a parliamentary and local government voter.

1927, 1928 - situation the same at 38 Lyell - the two Hylands and Joseph Shaw.

1929 Just the two Hylands , John WL and Marion, listed.
It's unfortunate that Joseph didn't stay there a bit longer!
John

[jonwarrn]

The only Janet Bryce I can see on the Liverpool electorals (hoping the lady in question is in them!) is found after WW2 at Flat B, 26 Huskisson Street.
Also recorded there is a William Bryce.
There is a death of a William Bryce, age 57, Sep qtr 1955, Liverpool South
And the chap at Huskisson Street is not listed in 1956, only Janet.

Possible death of the Nunn/Bryce lady, as day/month of birth seem to match 1939 info.
May 1997 Liverpool
Janet Bryce
d-o-b 21 Dec 1906

EDIT Looks like there is probate for her.
Janet Bryce died 19 May 1997.
Probate (will) granted at Liverpool, 30 July 1997

[jonwarrn]

Mother lived to 1979!
Death, Dec 1979 Wallasey vol 37 page 1137
Hilton, Janet Warwick M.
d-o-b 18 March 1886

Bit of luck!
Liverpool Echo, 24 December 1979 (page 4)

Deaths
HILTON—December 21, 1979,
peacefully, aged 93 years, JANET
WARWICK MARIE HILTON,
dearly loved mother of Janet Bryce.
Service and cremation at Landican
Crematorium, Friday, December
28, at 1.30 p.m. Flowers and
inquiries John W. Griffith and
Son, Millbank Funeral Home, Mill
Lane, Wallasey.

[jonwarrn]

Going back to that possible Janet with William Bryce -
an announcement in the Echo, 11 July 1955

BRYCE—July 10. WILLIAM, dearly
beloved husband of Janet Bryce, of 26
Huskisson St. Service Liverpool Crema -
torium, Priory Rd., Wednesday next,
at 12. Flowers, in bunches please, and
all inquiries to John Leary, Reverent
Chapel of  Rest, 188 Breck Rd., L'pool 5

[jonwarrn]

Liverpool Daily Post, 2 December 1942
Legal Notices

I, JANET BRYCE of 26 Huskisson
Street in the City of Liverpool a natural
born British subject heretofore called and
known by the name of Janet Nunn hereby
give Notice that on the Twenty-seventh day
of November 1942 I renounced and abandoned
the use of my said surname of Nunn and
assumed in lieu thereof the surname of Bryce
and further that such change of name is
evidenced by a Deed dated Twenty-seventh
November 1942, duly executed by me and
attested.—Dated the Thirtieth day of November
1942.
AUBREY CROYSDALE & CORNISH.

[heywood]

Super work, Jon.

[jonwarrn]

Thanks heywood. I was following up your suggestions about Janet's possible marriage and name change, you were absolutely right.
We have got very lucky with those newspaper announcements.

But, oh dear, Joseph Shaw. If only he had stayed at 38 Lyell for longer, it might have been a big help.
John

[heywood]

Do you think the electoral register for John Shaw, Lyell Street, in 1925 was an error?