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Re: "Parkhurst Boys" transported to NZ 1842/43
« Reply #162 on: Monday 31 May 10 12:56 BST (UK) »
Hello Anne,

My Personal Message should have reached you in the same fashion as my reply to your original message.

I have sent you a duplicate just in case.

For now

Tony

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« Reply #163 on: Monday 28 March 11 02:06 BST (UK) »
Hi,
My husband's g g grandfather was George Brown, 16 years old on arrival, a shoemaker and one of the Parkhurst boys transported on the St George arriving in 1842.
George was born in Wiltshire, England in 1925, he married Harriette Ward who was born in Auckland, NZ in 1856. They were married in 1872. Quite an age gap that caused a rift in the Ward family.

There is a great book called the First Fleets of Auckland which refers to the petty crimes they were sentenced for eg: fishing in the lord river or stealing an apple from a shop because they were hungry. Sad times

The website below tells that it was the Quakers influence in segregating the boys and teaching them trades.

http://pearlspad.net.nz/ParkhurstBoys.htm

You probably have all this info.

Best wishes
Tina Humphrey Rotorua New Zealand

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« Reply #164 on: Monday 28 March 11 11:26 BST (UK) »
Hello Tina,

I am very grateful for your message....thank you.

Some little while ago Tony Browne, George BROWN's Great Grandson, contacted me with some details which I would like to extend if at all possible.   I gather there were 13 children of his marriage to Harriet WARD and it would be very helpful if you have their personal details, together with what type of work George BROWN did and the cause of his eventual death in 1912.   The Biography I have for him is quite extensive, including his treatment during the first years in Auckland.   I will send you a Personal Message with my email address which you can respond to and I can then email you a copy of the Biography.

I was extremely interested in the "First Fleets of Auckland" which I have googled, found to be out of print and quite expensive second hand ex-postage to the UK.   Would it be possible to confirm whether or not the Parkhurst Boys that appear in the book are actually named, because possibly if so somebody could do a little research for me!!!

For the moment

Tony


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« Reply #165 on: Monday 28 March 11 11:38 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I have been communicating with Tony Browns for some time, another relation put me on to him. I'll send you all the family details I have.

Yes they had 13 children and they all lived to good ages, except Mary Elizabeth who died at 29.

Tony sent me a great picture of George and Harriette with the youngest child Wilfred. Great picture, funny looking man (not my side of the family!!!)

My email is (*)

Send me you email and I'll get the info to you.

Ciao for now

Tina Humphrey




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Re: "Parkhurst Boys" transported to NZ 1842/43
« Reply #166 on: Monday 28 March 11 20:41 BST (UK) »
Hello Tina,

You will note that your email details were removed.

Could you please refer to the Personal Message I sent which quotes my email address and you can then contact me direct with all the details, especially the photograph!!

For now,

Tony

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« Reply #167 on: Saturday 27 August 11 09:14 BST (UK) »
Tony, I have  been sitting here reading the posts about the Parkhurst Boys, in the hope that George Brown was my 3x great grandfather.  But I have just got to the end of the posts and discovered someone else has claimed him.

I have been looking for a George Brown, Shoemaker, born in Millbrook, Hampshire for some time now, and after attending the Family History show today, hoped that I had finally found him!  We have no record of his leaving England or arriving in New Zealand, other than his marriage in 1844 to Eliza Benton; in Wellington, New Zealand.

I am sorry someone else has claimed him, but it has been very interesting reading, as I had never heard of the Parkhurst boys.

I hope you studies have gone well.

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Cathy

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« Reply #168 on: Saturday 27 August 11 11:00 BST (UK) »
Hello Cathy,

Thank you for dropping me a line.......I can sympathise with the disappointment over your George BROWN not being the "Parkhurst Boy".   There have been many occasions when tracing one of the "Parkhurst Boys" to find I have been gaily wandering down a blind alley!!!

In some respects he was a strange character in that in 1844 he "vanished" for the next 28 years, re-emerging with his marriage in 1872 and becoming the father of 13 children.   The likelihood is that he was born in Lincolnshire, not Hampshire as your 3xGreat Grandfather, although this has not been verified but the 1841 Census, taken when he was in Parkhurst Prison, does state he was not born in the County (Hampshire).

Good luck with your continued search.

For now,

Tony

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« Reply #169 on: Saturday 08 October 11 09:39 BST (UK) »
Tony

Me again!

My George Brown appeared in New Zealand sometime before 1843-44, in time to marry in Wellington.  The only George Brown I can find on shipping records during this period is a Parkhurst boy.

George Brown from Lincolnshire who was sent to Parkhurst Prison and then to New Zealand, had a father named William, which is the name of the first born child of my George.  We can find no record of my George Brown where he says he was born!

I think I noticed on one of the posts about the Parkhurst boys mention of records that were kept for the first three years they were here.  Can you tell me how to access these.

I know that someone has "claimed" him but with a 40 year gap with no knowledge of his whereabouts and apart from the fact I am not the only member of the family to have picked up on the Parkhurst boys, I have become very interested in what happened to them.

Were there any ships logs from the St George put into book form?  I have just read "No Simple Passage" which was great reading and would quite like to read more along the same lines.

Regards

Cathy

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« Reply #170 on: Saturday 08 October 11 12:40 BST (UK) »
Hello Cathy,

I have been in contact with two of George BROWN's descendants, his Great Grandson Tony Browne and Great Great Granddaughter Tina Humphrey.

May I suggest you send me a Personal Message, confirming your email address and relationship to George BROWN, and I shall then contact them with your details so you can exchange family information.

For the moment,

Tony