"Parkhurst Boys" transported to NZ 1842/43

[BAC3]

Hello Norwich HEART,

I can provide a reasonable Biography for William TUCK up to 30/06/1843 when he was quoted as age 15, thus making his DOB closer to 1828 rather than 1831........"Parkhurst Boys" were not beyond telling slight fibs now and again to avoid confusion with being "adults" and harsher treatment.

There are one or two possibilities about his life down under, marriage to Mary FARRELL(?) in 1854 and his subsequent death in 1888 aged 60, for instance.   However, it would be helpful if you could confirm his parents as Henry and Louisa, as the details from the 1841 England Census of course are taken inside Parkhurst Prison and not with his parents.

Certainly I am more than happy to let you have a copy of his Biography I hold in my database, but you will need to confirm your email address to send the WORD document.............please use the "Personal Message" facility.

For the moment, my regards


Tony Cocks

[Norwich HEART]

Hi BAC3
Well this is my 3rd post, so I should now have access to PM and I'll contact you, however it might be difficult to id William Tuck in Norwich pre his arrest. He was presented in court without reference to his parents, and we rather assumed he was orphaned/abandoned. I will have a go.
Many thanks
Norwich HEART

[kipoko]

Hi Tony,
I've just found your ongoing chat re parkhurst boys - and wonder if my GGGG Uncle, Edward Carter, is the same person as on the Parkhurst Boys list.  This seems to be the only entry in the 1841 census that ticks all the boxes.  And I cannot find him in 1851 at all, possibly because he is not in the country. Then he is in the Royal Navy in 1861 (Malta) before turning up in 1871 at his sisters house in Sheppey, Kent.
He was born in the Isle of Sheppey, Kent - abt 1828, so would have been 14 in 1842 which ties up with the Parkhurst Boys data.
Do you think this may be the same person?

Jan

[BAC3]

Hello Jan,

Delighted to hear from you.

Certainly there was a "Parkhurst Boy", Edward CARTER, born c1829, tried at the Old Bailey, London, on 02/03/1840 and sentenced to transportation for 7 years.  He arrived in Auckland aboard the St. George in November 1842

However, I may have to disappoint you, because you mention the 1841 England Census and unless this related to the specific return made by Parkhurst Prison then it will not be the same Edward CARTER.  I have a reasonable amount of information that I can happily let you have if your GGGGrand Uncle does prove a match though.

For the moment,

Tony

[kipoko]

Hi Tony - yes it was the 1841 Census for Parkhurst prison.  However, if he was tried at the Old Bailey, does that mean he lived in London, rather than Isle of Sheppey, Kent?  What info would you need to prove/disprove the link?  My Edward Carter had parents William and Elizabeth - and sister Susannah - all born/living in Sheerness, Sheppey, Kent

Thanks for the swift reply,
Jan

[BAC3]

Hello Jan,

Good news........creating Biographies for the 123 "Parkhurst Boys" that were sent to Auckland has been the most difficult part of the research for my PhD......now with Edward CARTER it seems I can add another item that will certainly help me.

Possibly the best approach, subject to your agreement, would be to send me a "Personal Message" confirming your email address, together with bits and pieces of information that you have for Edward, especially those that relate to 1861 and beyond which I can further research from this end of the world.   I will then complete his Biography, including a transcript of his trial and his first 2/3 years in NZ.   The most testing research probably will be to retrieve details about how he "emigrated" back to England.   Incidentally, do please confirm your full name so that I can add the proper "Acknowledgement".

For the moment,

Tony

[ashforda]

I know this is five years too lte but do you sill want any stories of Parkhurst boys in NZ.
My great great grndfather was William Thorne who came out on the St george.
I have his life story if it is still of any use to you.
He was one of the success stories.

Anne Ashford

[BAC3]

Hello Anne,

Delighted with your message, especially as your Great Great Grandfather is one for whom I have no information at all about his NZ life.  And, not too late, as I am just in the final stages of putting my PhD research together.

My quest retrieving details for the 123 "Parkhurst Boys" sent to Auckland in 1842 and 1843 has been very disappointing.   In fact I have only managed to complete full Biographies for 12 of them, so your message was more than welcome.

I will post a "Personal Message" to you with my email address and we can then exchange the details.

For the moment

Tony

[ashforda]

So glad to hear from you and to be of so use. Am apalled at the typos in my original message p ery careless!!!

Am new to Roots chat - do personal messages come through this or do you get access to my email address.

Anne