"Parkhurst Boys" transported to NZ 1842/43

[BAC3]

Hello Annie,


The http://iccs.arts.utas.edu.au reference could be extremely useful. 

I am familiar with Lucy Frost's work on Convictism and, as she organised the [ESCAPE] Conference in 2003, I have sent her an email asking for a copy of a  particular Paper delivered at the Conference on escaped convicts in, and fleeing to, New Zealand.  At the same time I explained the nature of my Ph D and as she, too, studies convict Biographies there may be areas where ideas/information can be exchanged.

Thanks for the tip.

Regards

Tony

[liverpool annie]

One more -  then I'll leave you alone for a while!!!!

http://www.dailywriting.net/ShippingYears.htm

Have a great day Tony!

Annie

[BAC3]

Annie,

You don't have to leave me alone....I enjoy the emails, each one has a snippet of information new to my files............much appreciated. 

This one for example talks about whaling, and boat building, but it is the whaling aspect that interests me, especially as regards Tasmania and Western Australia.    Quite a large number of the "Parkhurst Boys" escaped from the Colonies aboard American Whalers and they become lost entirely to my research......so how do I treat them for analysis......the easy answer "unreformed" and "recidivists".

Incidentally, did you get my responses to the other emails....I was especially grateful for the "lead" to the [ESCAPE] Conference in 2003.

Take care

Tony

[liverpool annie]

What caught my eye was this !

It was in this setting that John Watson and his brother Captain George Watson, merchant shipowner - one the shipwright, the other the sailor - induced young men to build ships and take them to sea. They did this with the convict lads from Point Puer at Port Arthur and with the roughest and toughest of the adult convicts there. Before John Watson took charge of the Port Arthur Government shipyards these men were mostly unmanageable. With John Watson they worked well and won their liberty, many continuing to work as shipwrights in the thriving Blue Gum Clipper industry.

and my thought was - maybe you could find out about the "boys" from the Blue Gum Clipper!! - if there was any way to get information from them? Maybe Riley could help you with that!!

Annie

[BAC3]

Good Evening Annie,

I read through the website, checked on a few names that were quoted in the text as being "good apprentices" etc., though there were no connections.   I quite like the idea about the Blue Gum Clipper industry, but who is "Riley"......for the life of me!!!

Incidentally, I used to live in Hobart more years ago now than I care to remember.

For now

Tony

[liverpool annie]

Hi Tony!

Riley is another Rootschatter who does an awful lot of work on the New Zealand board -  extremely knowledgable - in fact replied to your post at the beginning !

Doesn't the Blue Gum Clipper Industry sound cool?? I love that! - makes it more interesting to research -  when you have fun names to look up!!

I'll keep looking - 

Annie

Big-long-link

[spades]

Hi Tony,

If you want to look for NZ ITM's I can do that, although as they're not indexed after 1881 it will be time consuming. The best method is to find a marriage match to their name first, and then take an educated guess as to where they married, then look for the ITM.

However, advertising in the Information Wanted section of The NZ Genealogist Magazine published by the NZ Society of Genealogists would probably elicit a number of repsonses from descendants who could provide the same information.
ITM's could then be sought for those remaining, perhaps.

The Blue Gum Clipper is an Australian reference with no NZ connection as far as I can see.

Annie, thanks for the compliment; much appreciated but hardly deserved. I prefer 'ignorant but persistent' 

Regards, riley

[liverpool annie]

I was wondering  how many of the families of the Parkhurst Boys went to War??- probably their grandchildren - but it would be intriguing to find out - wouldn't it?

this is odds and ends things that you may find interesting!
http://www.ozlists.com/genies/index.htm

and this is some details from the British Parliament!
http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/cm199798/cmselect/cmhealth/755/755ap07.htm

Annie

[BAC3]

Hello Riley,

Thanks for the offer to look up the NZ ITMs.......one I cannot possibly refuse, although I do appreciate it is probably a "hit and miss" exercise.

The names below are ones for whom I have partially-completed Biographies and am hoping to find details that may indicate that they became "absorbed into colonial society as free citizens", such as marriage, children etc.  All the names quoted disembarked from the "St. George" in November 1842 at Auckland:

1.   William Henry BEASLEY;

2.   William Grace BLACKWELL;

3.   Thomas BURNAND ...........he had a Brother, Isaac,
      who was transported alongside him for whom,
      strangely, I have marriage/children details.....there
      appears to be no trace of Thomas according to Isaac's
      descendants;

4.   Thomas HARVEY....... he may have become a Chemist;

5.    John or James MAHONEY or LEE;

6.    William SMITH (aka HARLINGTON);

7.    William WARNETT (aka WARNUTT or WALNUTT).

That only leaves 116 "Parkhurst Boys" to research in NZ........!!   Actually if I can create another 7 or 8 full Biographies that would be more than sufficient for my thesis.   At the moment I have 17, including 3 who were re-transported to Tasmania, so the completion rate is fairly reasonable.

Once again, my thanks for your help......but please should you have any difficulties then don't waste too much time.

Best wishes

Tony