Foster Parents or wrong family?

[gimli74]

I am looking for Sarah Ann Smith born 1851 in Portsmouth, Hampshire to John Smith and Sarah Selina Richards.
According to the 1851 census (Bingham Town, Alverstoke) John was born in 1828 in Ireland and occupation was recorded as Warden Convict Service.
Sarah Selina Richards born 1826 in Gosport.
When I started looking at the 1861 census (Hound, Hampshire), I found a Sarah Ann Smith living with John and Sarah Poole along with 2 boys Robert and John G Cove, all the children were down as there Daughter and Sons.

I have searched and searched but can find no record of John Smith or Sarah Selina Richards Smith.

Any help or advise is desperately needed.
Many Thanks in advance
Gimli74

[avm228]

So your starting point is this:

Richard St, Alverstoke, 1851 census HO107/1660/8/8

John Smith Head Mar 23 Warder convict service, b Ireland
Sarah S do Wife Mar 23 Hants Gosport
Sarah A do Daur 3mo Hants Gosport

The daughter’s birth was registered as Sarah Alicia Smith, mmn Richards, Mar qtr 1851 Alverstoke.

[avm228]

The Cove children (Robert in 1858; John Christopher in 1860) were registered with mother’s maiden name Smith, so the family you have found in 1861 doesn’t look like a second marriage for Sarah Selina Richards/Smith.  There’s no middle name for the bride on the marriage of Sarah Smith to John Cove, Dec qtr 1857 South Stoneham.

The eldest daughter’s name Sarah Ann doesn’t match Sarah Alicia from the 1851 family anyway.  She seems to have been registered as Sarah Ann Smith, no separate mother’s maiden name, Mar qtr 1852 South Stoneham.

Perhaps the 1851 family moved to Ireland, where John originated from?

[Daisypetal]

Hi,

I'm not sure if you already have this information, but it might help us find her later,


Baptism
St Mary, Alverstoke

Birth date   07 Jan 1826
Baptism date:  26 Feb 1826

Sarah Selina RICHARDS

Parents:  Reuben and Sarah
Abode:  Gosport
Profession:  Cooper


Marriage
Sarah Selina RICHARDS    Dec Q 1849    Alverstoke    7  71
John SMITH


Regards,
Daisy

[Daisypetal]

Hi,

I can't see Sarah Alicia after 1851 but I think John and Sarah Selina SMITH went to Australia. They had further children,


https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/indexsearch.doj

John David SMITH    1855    Collingwood, Victoria    
Parents:  John SMITH,  Sarah Selina RICHARDS    


Peter Henry SMITH    1858    Pentridge, Victoria
Parents:  John SMITH,  Sarah Selina RICHARDS


Edward Shram SMITH    1862    Pent, Victoria
Parents:  John SMITH,  Sarah Selina RICHARDS



It looks like 2 of these children died young,


John David SMITH
Death:  1856  Victoria
Father:  John
Mother:  Sarah Selina RICHARDS
Age:  1   (I think this could be months)


Peter Henry SMITH
Death:  1859  Victoria
Father:  John
Mother:  Sarah Selina RICHARDS
Age:  13  (I think this could be 13 months)


Sarah Selina died in 1866,

Sarah Selina SMITH
Father's name:   RICHARDS Reube
Mother's name:  Sarah (KEMP)
Place of birth:  ENGL
Age:  37


The Argus, Melbourne, Australia
25 Jan 1866

SMITH.—On the 30th ult., at Hotham, Sarah Selina,the beloved wife of John SMITH, storekeeper, Pentridge Stockade, youngest daughter of Reuben RICHARDS, Esq., of Gosport, Hants, aged thirty-seven.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01n4c/


I'm not sure that this is the family you are looking for  Are you looking for Sarah Alicia b.1851 or a Sarah Ann b.1850


Regards,
Daisy

[gimli74]

Thank you so much for your replies.