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Re: Missing a Marshall born 1885/6 Camberwell
« Reply #45 on: Tuesday 27 November 18 08:26 GMT (UK) »
1881 30 Charlotte Street Bethnal Green

Thomas Hummerston aged 47
Esther 51
Elizabeth 20
Mary Ann 18
Alice 16
Thomas 13

all born Bethnal Green except Esther who was born Spitalfields and all in Weaving trade

Marriage gives Charlotte Street as Mary Ann's address,

Well we were all thrown by the Camberwell link !!

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Re: Missing a Marshall born 1885/6 Camberwell
« Reply #46 on: Tuesday 27 November 18 08:35 GMT (UK) »
I found a Baptism record for an Alice Mary Ann Marshall, parents James and Mary Ann, born 18th Dec 1883, baptised 6th Jan 1884 at St Pauls Hammersmith.  There is also an address of 9 Elsic Street (reading 19th century handwriting not my strong point).  This is presumably a Hammersmith/Fulham address.

Separately, I found a Poor Law Removal/Settlement medical record, dated 13/5/85 referencing the same 9 Eldwick Street (handwriting!!)  It says:
Mary Marshall aged 22, wife of James Marshall, married at St Lukes(?) church 3 years.
2 children, James John 2+half born Stratford, and Alice Mary Ann 1yr4months.
Husband was living at the time of marriage at 10 Chance Street Stratford, 1year.

...some handwriting I cannot read but seems to say husband left Beaumont near Colchester in 1878, parents born in Beaumont.

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Well done for finding all that, and well done everybody!
So pleased that the elusive James has been found, and hope that you are now able to discover what happened to Alice.
John

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Re: Missing a Marshall born 1885/6 Camberwell
« Reply #47 on: Tuesday 27 November 18 08:46 GMT (UK) »
I must say I am very impressed with watsonbrown, a new comer to RC but he also did a lot of research himself

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Re: Missing a Marshall born 1885/6 Camberwell
« Reply #48 on: Tuesday 27 November 18 09:59 GMT (UK) »
What about this child registered 1885 Camberwell, MMN Hummerston

Rose Elizabeth  Marshall
baptised St Giles Camberwell
29/12/1885
father James mother Mary Ann
address given as Workhouse

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PS Looks as if they are in the workhouse, Rose's birth 03/12/1885,
James, MaryAnn  and little Rose Elizabeth
Camberwell Parish Havil Street,
I am assuming this is the same family as she has Hummerston as her mother's maiden name, wonder what happened to her?
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Re: Missing a Marshall born 1885/6 Camberwell
« Reply #49 on: Tuesday 27 November 18 11:00 GMT (UK) »
Watsonbrown
Don't know how far you want to go with this

Marriage 19/11/1866
St James Bethnal Green
Thomas Hummerston W  30 Charlotte St fth William
to
Esther Wensly/Wensby W Charlotte St fth William Coombs
all in weaver trade
Witnesses  William Hummerston and Joseph D ?

It looks as if they were settled  as Charlotte St is mentioned later on in census and marriage, pity James and Mary were so unsettled

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Re: Missing a Marshall born 1885/6 Camberwell
« Reply #50 on: Tuesday 27 November 18 15:24 GMT (UK) »
Thanks everyone for their help on this.  I had started my family research some years ago now, gotten to this branch last year and obviously been stuck here pretty much since.  I am glad to have some new information!

We've gone from looking 1885/6 Camberwell to 1881 Stratford, and I would never have figured that if it weren't through the school records and Jon's and Louisa's help.

I will take some time out now, to digest, piece together, discuss with my immediate family etc.  It's quite a lot to take in.  I am if nothing else curious as to whatever happened to Alice and I will come back to that, all in good time.  I also wonder if the police warrant for James Senior ever resulted in an arrest/charge.

Will review in a week or two!  Thanks again.
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Re: Missing a Marshall born 1885/6 Camberwell
« Reply #51 on: Tuesday 27 November 18 15:31 GMT (UK) »
You are very welcome, it was interesting to say the least, as regards the warrant I have no idea how to go about that

Alice is elusive as well even though we know here date of birth, assuming once again it is correct

Happy Hunting

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Garner, Devon
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Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
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Re: Missing a Marshall born 1885/6 Camberwell
« Reply #52 on: Tuesday 27 November 18 20:54 GMT (UK) »
Albert Henry Sibbons married Rose Marshall 1904, date of birth 3/12/1885 matches 1939 index

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Re: Missing a Marshall born 1885/6 Camberwell
« Reply #53 on: Tuesday 27 November 18 20:57 GMT (UK) »
According to online tree Rose died Eastbourne 1961

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