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Re: Missing a Marshall born 1885/6 Camberwell
« Reply #27 on: Monday 26 November 18 16:17 GMT (UK) »
89 Malmesbury Road, Bow.
Likely address for James + Sarah (Sadie) from 1922 electoral register. Only Sadie there in 1927.

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Re: Missing a Marshall born 1885/6 Camberwell
« Reply #28 on: Monday 26 November 18 16:36 GMT (UK) »
[2] Alice Marshall as a 6yo in the 1891 census, one of many in the District South Metropolitan District School, Witham, Essex.  This suggests Alice (and presumably James) were orphans.

Info on her and her brother
Camberwell Board of Guardians
Register of Children Sent to South Metropolitan School District, 1889-1892

James Marshall, age (born) 1881, maintained at Sutton, admitted 22.2.87
Alice Marshall, 1884, maintained at Witham, admitted 6.9.87

Description - Deserted
Discharge - 91 (?)
Relative/Parent - Mother Mary A Marshall,
26 Oppenheim Rd, Essex Rd, Islington (struck through)
Particulars of Chargeability - Deserted by Father + Mother. Warrant for Father

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Re: Missing a Marshall born 1885/6 Camberwell
« Reply #29 on: Monday 26 November 18 16:43 GMT (UK) »
How sad

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Re: Missing a Marshall born 1885/6 Camberwell
« Reply #30 on: Monday 26 November 18 16:52 GMT (UK) »
Can't find  the same MMN for James and Alice

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Re: Missing a Marshall born 1885/6 Camberwell
« Reply #31 on: Monday 26 November 18 16:55 GMT (UK) »
Sad, yes.
Not sure about that "91" in pencil for discharge
They are in the next book, from 1892
James 1881
Alice 1884
Deserted by Father

For James Marshall, Sutton is crossed out and Witham written in pencil, with a date 21.8.93

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Re: Missing a Marshall born 1885/6 Camberwell
« Reply #32 on: Monday 26 November 18 17:04 GMT (UK) »
So I guess this is him at Sutton in 1891
Age 8, place of birth Not Known
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QXJG-DT2

In the next book, which is from 1897

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Re: Missing a Marshall born 1885/6 Camberwell
« Reply #33 on: Monday 26 November 18 17:15 GMT (UK) »
The only familiar thing about this 
1901 Ref RG13/1201 FOLIO 131 PAGE 40  is James Marshall aged 19 post office counter clerk boarder in Acton

BUT

place of birth is Portsmouth

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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
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Coveney Kent Lambeth
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Re: Missing a Marshall born 1885/6 Camberwell
« Reply #34 on: Monday 26 November 18 17:18 GMT (UK) »
It looks as if both parents deserted these poor little ones, where was the mother, one would assume she also is in a workhouse, what a pity these children were split up but the good things is they found each other

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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: Missing a Marshall born 1885/6 Camberwell
« Reply #35 on: Monday 26 November 18 17:50 GMT (UK) »
I was doing well LM, but running out of options.
Not picking these two up in workhouse records?

In that last book available, from 1897, there's also William Marshall, born 1884, alongside the entries for James + Alice, but I don't think he is anything to do with them (his father was Joseph)

They seem to have lost the mother ("no trace")
Couple of discharges for Alice in 1898, the second one was to service with a Mrs Nursh or more likely is Marsh perhaps?, 50 Pelham Rd, Wimbledon.

Might be worth looking at the London Poor Law School District Registers on ancestry, which they have indexed.
John