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Re: Missing a Marshall born 1885/6 Camberwell
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 25 November 18 12:14 GMT (UK) »
I appreciate that, but I can but hope :(
Marshall, London Paddington and Poplar
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Re: Missing a Marshall born 1885/6 Camberwell
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 25 November 18 12:25 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat.  He certainly seems to be a puzzling one.

Am I right in reading that his distinctive marks included “Old Camberwell” on his left leg - presumably a tattoo?  Admittedly I am not sure where this would get you!
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Re: Missing a Marshall born 1885/6 Camberwell
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 25 November 18 12:51 GMT (UK) »
All I can find out about "old Camberwell " is there was a church there in  the late 1700's.

I wonder if James starteed off life as a Marshall, just a thought

Have you found out Alice's date of birth?

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Re: Missing a Marshall born 1885/6 Camberwell
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 25 November 18 12:55 GMT (UK) »
Census 1911
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW21-N9H

I cannot see the RYMILLs 1901 Census

FreeBDM    DecQ 1895    Paddington 1a / 57
RYMILL Joseph Thomas   m. HOBBS Fanny

This address - 1 Adpar Chambers  - at Census 1911, at enlistment 1915, at marriage 1920?


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Re: Missing a Marshall born 1885/6 Camberwell
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 25 November 18 13:08 GMT (UK) »
05/05/1901 baptism for a Rymill child is given as 15 Mardale St, Shepherds Bush  Hammersmith

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Re: Missing a Marshall born 1885/6 Camberwell
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 25 November 18 13:16 GMT (UK) »
This Joseph Rymill aged 41 joined the army at Aldershot 5/10/1915, perhaps James thought he had to go and do his bit as well.

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Re: Missing a Marshall born 1885/6 Camberwell
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 25 November 18 13:20 GMT (UK) »
Yes, Adpar Chambers is the address I have for him from at least 1911 to 1920, after which he would move in with his wife in Poplar, East London and all is well from there.

But before 1911, not a dicky bird!

I hadn’t thought about pursuing the Rymills or others, that could be an interesting approach though I would assume they would not be related or otherwise connected.  I don’t know if the total household was the same throughout the 9 years he was there for.

Could it be he was adopted or changed his name?  I guess it’s likely his birth date may be incorrect or lied about, but could the birth location be fabricated, too?

Thanks again.  I know it’s a mystery and a bit of a dead end, hence the plea for help! :)
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Re: Missing a Marshall born 1885/6 Camberwell
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 25 November 18 13:36 GMT (UK) »
1901 RG13/42 FOLIO 157 PAGE 40

Listed as Ryneil
15 Mardale St Hammersmith
No sign of James Marshall


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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: Missing a Marshall born 1885/6 Camberwell
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 25 November 18 16:31 GMT (UK) »
There is a tree on Anc. that lists him as dying in 1926 in Poplar which is presumably this on FreeBMD
James Marshall  age 39  Dec Qtr 1926    Poplar 1c   439

Must be the chap buried at Woodgrange Park Cemetery, 22 Dec 1926. No ages given in these registers, but there is no other death reg of a James Marshall it could be. 
Seems to have died at St Andrews Hospital
No. 1713
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSH6-H9N4-H?i=741&cat=1161381