Charles Smith and Clara .....

[Norfolk Nigel]

Charles Smith was born ~1847 (1847 Q2 Depwade 13 46), baptised in Tharston, Norfolk on 25 Nov 1847 and was single and living with his parents in Tharston at the time of the 1871 Census (RG10 1836 161 17), a blacksmith aged 23.

Charles married Alice Maria Rushmore on 19 Oct 1880 in Tharston.

The 1881 Census (RG11 1969 57 16) had Charles (blacksmith) living in Tharston with wife Alice Maria and daughter Ellen J (born 1873).

An Ellen Jane Smith was baptised on 27 May 1877 in Tharston and gave a birth date as 11 Sept 1872, with parents Charles (blacksmith) and Clara.

A Clara Smith died in 1879, buried in Tharston St. Mary's Church on 11 July 1879, memorial in the churchyard 'IN MEMORY OF CLARA BELOVED WIFE OF CHARLES SMITH WHO DIED JULY 7TH 1879 AGED 34 YEARS WHEN WE ASUNDER PART .....', so Clara was born ~1845 and possibly at some point between 1871 and 1879 had married Charles.

Hopefully someone can help me to find the Clara mentioned above. I have searched for a marriage between Charles and Clara in the appropriate period but can get nowhere. Also tried to find any Clara, local to Tharston, who would fit the description.

Thanks in anticipation.

Nigel

[jonwarrn]

A possible birth reg for Ellen from the new GRO index
Dec 1872 Depwade 4b 231
Smith, Ellen Jane
mother's maiden surname Wiseman

[jonwarrn]

Marriage, not in Norfolk.
Dec 1871 Thanet 2a 1491
Smith, Charles       
Wiseman, Clara

[Norfolk Nigel]

Thanks for this. It seems strange that the marriage was in Thanet - perhaps she was in service around there. Also a problem in as much as I think Clara was born in Saxlingham near to Tharston; there are two Clara Wisemans, b. 1845 and 1847. Looking at the dates probably the one born in 1845.

[amondg]

Registration Henstead
Clara Wiseman 1844 mothers maiden name Nichols

Clara Wiseman 1847 mothers maiden name Culham

[amondg]

Using the 1851 census
Robert and Hannah Wiseman have a father in law Joseph Cullum living with them, so the 1847 Clara is their daughter. Clara is age 4 in 1851.

The 1845 Clara must be of Edward and Maria Wiseman, he is a rail labourer born Fundenhall, and Maria born Forncett St. Mary.  Clara is age 6 in 1851

[trish1120]

CLARA Wiseman, Daug of ROBERT a Labourer married James FLINT a Widower/Thatcher 25 Dec 1872
(FreeREG)

1881 Census Claras Mother Hannah Wiseman is living with them.

I cant find the other Clara in 1871 Census.

[jonwarrn]

Clara Wiseman, 23, in Saxlingham with parents Robert + Hannah in 1871

So the other Clara could be in London in 1871, age a bit out. A kitchen maid. Hopefully is the lady who married in Kent in 1872!
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRNY-HH1

[trish1120]

Good find jonw65