World War One. Gipsy Roll of Honour.

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My relative Alfred Gaskin from Sudbury was enlisted into the Labour Corps in Byker, Newcastle and was killed near Ypres in 1917. I visit his grave every year.

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Alfred Gaskin

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Hi
 I have many records of the times of the Gaskins I will put them on later in several pages on this thread, these below are just a few extracts I have been looking at for I am sure that they used different names, only someone like my Pal Richard or Sue could tell you or anyone other the real truth, Richard is the famous writer of these days who knows the old history of Gipsy family's, Sue is just a great writer of high renown and nigh on the best in knowing of things like we talk of here, I just find things and wish to learn intearn I try to help everyone and share everything, there are different types of researchers, people who go flat out to write books and record their findings (RICHARD) then people like (SUE) who has compiled vast amounts of knowledge in several web sites over the yeares, then there is me who knows nothing really and as learned on the hoof, but I try my best to help and share, there is one type last and they are the selfish ones who find and hide and they just collect things like a child's game, lots of times they don't evan say thankyou to the people who may look hard in all sorts of records for them, its true these are the bad ones, truthfully they are ashamed of the Old Peoples and evan make a false history up of them so they in this time look good in their own eyes, anyway just read this below, these extracts, I think there is much to learn about the Gaskins and maybe they used different names, which one came first well you must ask Richard or Sue, maybe I have things wrong and only the name Gaskin is the real one, I will in a week or so put many records on for all the great Gaskins, like all the other family's I respect their Dead, the real truth of WW1 as never been told, I have researched these times now for several yeares and evan read books, I have many many more names to put on plus the real history, everyone counts right from the oldest of the Romany to People from later times as in names, I make no distinction, a Gipsy is a Gipsy, if your not your not, if you are you know it. These two below are just to show you how a name may be used differently





Friday 20 March 1835
  Stamford Mercury
  Lincolnshire


.. REGISTER WANTED.  MINISTERS, CHURCHWARDENS, the  Register of THOMAS GASCOIGNE, otherwise styled GASKIN or GASKINE, who have been born in the West Riding of Yorkshire in Cumberland, between the years 1650 and 1700, the Roman Catholic ...

 


Saturday 16 February 1889
 York Herald
Yorkshire

NOTES AND QUERIES
... (55) Date of a Law Trial Wanted.— Could anyone give me the date of the trial which took place between John Cartwright and — Gaskin (or Gascoyne)? It occurred about the years 1834 or 1835 in York. The trial was about some land and money, and John Cartwright ...


 Friday 28 July 1916
 Diss Express
  Norfolk

At Woodbridge on Wednesday, George Gaskin, Saunders Gaskin, and William Gaskin, all gipsies, belonging to Wickham Market, were brought before the Magistrates under the Military Service  Act. Each was fined £2, inclusive, and in default distress seven days' imprisonment. They were handed over to the military authorities


  Friday 27 October 1911
  Shepton Mallet Journal
  Somerset


Dowsa Gascoyne, gipsy, was charged on remand with stealing a picture, valued 5s, the property of Sarah Ann Thomas, of Bleadon

Friday 28 October 1904
 Cambridge Independent Press
  Cambridgeshire

THE SOHAM STABBING AFFRAY. OLD MAN SENT TO PRISON. James Gaskin (60), James Gascoyne, hawker, was indicted for unlawfully and maliciously inflicting upon Robert Attlesey a certain grievous bodily harm

Friday 28 June 1895
 Chelmsford Chronicle
  Essex


PETTY SESSIONS
  CLACTON. 'Louisa Gascoigne, a gipsy, for allowing a horse to stray on the highway at Clacton, was fined 6s. and 9s. 6d. costs
 

  Wednesday 24 March 1897
 Kirkintilloch Herald
  Dunbartonshire

“KING OF THF GIPSIES DEAD”
  William Gascoigne, a well-known Romany who enjoyed the 
 

 Saturday 27 March 1897
  Norfolk News
  Norfolk

A “GIPSY KING'S” FUNERAL
  The remains of William Gaskin, the “ King,” who died at the Ipswich and East Suffolk Hospital last Wednesday, were interred at Colchester Cemetery on Monday, there being  large members of his tribe. The procession started ...
 


 Saturday 11 January 1879
  Norwich Mercury
  Norfolk

 Plato Gaskin was charged with allowing  four hores to stray on the highway on the 3rd inst. 


Saturday 03 November 1877
  Cambridge Chronicle and Journal
Cambridgshire
 
Committed for trial at Sessions. Alfred Gascoyne, travelling hawker, for assaulting Robert Nightingale,  was fined 10s., 


Friday 25 August 1871
  Chelmsford Chronicle
  Essex

Wilful Damage.—On Friday last Ruth Gaskin and Louisa Gaskin, two gipsies, were brought before Mr. S. W. Savill, charged with wilfully damaging a fence, the property of Mr. Wm. Brown 

  Saturday 14 October 1871
  Cambridge Independent Press
  Cambridgeshire

  Ruth Gascoigne, hawker, was brought up by Sergeant Allen, charged upon a warrant with committing an assault upon Betsy Cooke, another hawker, in the Bridge Fair Meadow, at Fletton, on the 4th inst


Saturday 09 January 1869
  The Ipswich Journal
  Suffolk

PETTY SESSIONS REPORTS
  Furious Driving-Plato Gascoyne, also Gaskin, licensed  hawker, was charged with driving furiously in ST. Mary's Street, on the 12th November last.  Defendant did notappear 

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This Roll of Honour is for all the Old People caught up in WW1, the truth as not been told, much went on like Gipsy round ups, many police and soldiers would surround camp sites and raid them, they would take people away to die offten in the war, everyday folks from the towns to were taken from football grounds and pubs, evan picture houses were targeted to find young men to fill the ranks that were left open by the dead soldiers, i will write more later, lots of Gipsy's got intangled in one way or another not just in the low wire of the battle fields, i will do my best to talk for them


Gypsies Roll of Honour
 World War One
    28 July 1914 – 11 November 1918.
 
Thomas Cunningham
Mathew Cunningham
John Jack Cunningham VC
Ambrose Bacon
Charles Bacon
Samuel Brazil   
Sidney Harris MM
Abraham Keat
David Keet
Benjamin Lee
Abraham Ripley
Abraham Ripley
Alfred Riley Scamp
Samuel Scamp
Riley Scamp
Silvester Gordon Boswell
John Cole
William Smith
Alfred Scamp   East Kent Regiment   L/8117   Pte   
Charles Scamp   East Kent Regiment   2960   Pte   
Gilderoy Scamp   East Kent Regiment   204082   
Solomon Scamp   East Kent Regiment   SR/10386   
W R Scamp   East Kent Regiment   204080   Pte
Henry Deacon
John Wiltshire - Northumberland Fusiliers 3/10068-Rank-Private   
Kisby Draper  Private West Yorkshire Regiment, service number 52039.
Alias Jack Fletcher
George Gaskin     
Saunders Gaskin
William Gaskin
Alfred Gaskin 

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Hi thank you for the enclosed. Made interesting reading.

This picture is Alfie Gaskin originally from Sudbury, enlisted into the army in 1917 at Byker Showground, Newcastle. He was killed outside Ypres.

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 I will put many more references up of the Gaskins soon for all their relation's to find and know of them, remember that in most of the written records I leave out much information that will help you, there maybe is more names and clues for you to find, you must sign up to the Newspaper Archives their address is on here many times, it does not cost much yet everything is there, you must signe up and learn of the Genealogy History of your Families, I will write more of the Family's that are connected to the War yeares, I will now write for the Winters these to are only a few records there is more to come at a later time, i know i may get some things wrong, there is always that chance, but the chance i will take 


 Friday 16 March 1917
  Jarrow Express
  Durham 


To late in choosing.

At Jarrow police court, on Wednesday, john winter, a hawker, was charged with being an
absentee under tire Military Service Act. Detective McGee spoke to arresting the defendant at a house in Stanley Tuesday. Defendant said that he had lost his papers. Defendant said he did not think it necessary to register for he suffered from a bad hand. On being fined 40s and remanded to await an escort he asked if he could have a choice between the Army and the Navy.   The Magistrates' Clerk (Mr. B. W. C. said……… “You are too late now”.
 


Saturday 24 March 1917
 Leeds Mercury
  Yorkshire

Barnsley, A Gipsy Absentee.—-A youth named Ernest Winter, brought before the magistrates yesterday, denied that he was a deserter from the Army. He said that he was sixteen last July and had never been in the Army. The case had been adjourned for his mother to produce her son’s birth certificate, but she said that she had not obtained this. The youth belongs to a gipsy family and was arrested in a caravan. The Bench handed him over to the military escort.


Saturday 24 March 1917
  Sheffield Daily Telegraph
  Yorkshire

  A gipsy youth, named Ernest Winter, was at yesterday handed over to escort a deserter from a Training Reserve. It appeared that the lad was a van dweller 

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Saturday 02 June 1764
  Newcastle Chronicle
  Northumberland 


JOHN WINTER, stout well-made Man, about twenty-nine Years of Age, near five Feet nine Inches high, of a black Complexion, short black Hair, with grey Cut Wig over it, light blue Eyes, black Eye Brows, with a Scar over his Left Eye much wore out, a thin short nose, and rather Out-mouthed; had when committed, an old Blue-grey Coat and Waistcoat, the Coat lined with yellow Shalloon, with large plain Brass Buttons upon it, and plain white Metal Buttons upon the Waistcoat, a Pair of white   ham Breeches much worn and clouted, with white Metal Buttons upon them, a Pair of dark grey Woollen Stockings, a blue and white Linen Handkerchief about his Neck, and a Pair of broad rimed brass Buckles, with the Letters C and Y call Within the Rims of each them; says he was born at Alnwick in the County Northumberland, and served his Father there, in the Trade of a Cooper and  Basket Maker, and travelled the Country working in the Business; and about eight years ago he enlisted with the Recruiting Party, belonging  to the second Division Marines, then lying at Chatham; then he deserted at North-Allerton in the County of York, and was apprehended about three Years ago at Barlow in the County of Durham, but afterwards made his Escape, and never joined that Division,


 Saturday 15 February 1783
  Newcastle Chronicle
 Northumberland 

WILLIAM WINTER, 6 Feet high, 23 Years of age dark-brown complexion, round Visage, hazel Eyes, and black Hair born in the Parish of Yettam, in the County of Northumberland, a Tinker ; the fore Finger of his right Hand remarkably large and crooked. 
 William Winter is now in Containment at Musselburgh, near Edinburgh and in several Circumstances there is strong reason to believe that he has committed some Robbery in the Northern Counties of England, or Borders of Scotland.  He has lately deserted from his Service,
  Any Information concerning this Man will properly attended to, by lending a Letter to the Commanding Officer of the
South Fencible Regiment of Foot, Musselburgh. He has often changed his Name, and has a Brother now a Deserter from several Regiments, who has from times gone by the Name of Bennet.


Saturday 09 August 1788
  Newcastle Courant
  Northumberland

On Wednesday John and Robert Winter, father and son, were executed on the Fair Moor, near Morpeth...............

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 Saturday 10 September 1791
  Newcastle Courant
  Northumberland 
 
COUNTY of NORTHUMBERLAND. MURDER and ROBBERY.
William Winter committed to Morpeth gaol, charged on a violent suspicion of robbing and murdering Margaret Crozier, 

Saturday 17 September 1791
  Newcastle Courant
  Northumberland
 
On Wednesday Inst, Jane Clark, alias Douglas, the elder, Jane Clark, alias Douglas, the younger, Eleanor Clark, alias Douglas, and Matthew Clark, alias Douglas, were committed to Morpeth gaol, charged with breaking into the house, and murdering Margaret Crozier, late of the Raw, in the parish of Elsdon, in company with William Winter……….

 
Saturday 04 August 1792
  Newcastle Courant
  Northumberland 

William Winter Jane Clark, the elder and the younger Eleanor clarke charged with murder and theft 
 

 
Monday 13 August 1792
  Leeds Intelligencer
  Yorkshire 

William Winter. Jane Clarke, and Eleanor Clarke, two sisters, were executed on Friday morning at Newcastle-upon- Tyne, for the murder of Margaret Crozier, of the Raw near Elsdon. The girls were taken afterwards and carried to the Surgeons-Hall for identification, and Winter to be hung in chains near the place where the crime was committed.— Winter acknowledge the justification of his sentence but the girls denied having been concerned in the murder; the father and brother of Winter were hanged at Morpeth in the year 1790; and such has been the horrid depravity of him, he has not been at liberty for six months together during the last eighteen years.— The trial lasted upwards of sixteen hours.
 

 Thursday 06 August 1903
  Southern Reporter
  Selkirkshire
  Scotland

THE HOME OF THE LATE MEMBER FOR THE BORDER BORGHS.
No collection in Northumberland was more interesting to me than that of Sir George Trevelyan, at Wallington Hall.
The home of the late member for the Border Borghs occupies a delightful situation overlooking the Valley, and surrounded by tall ancestral trees. Wallington is about thirteen miles from Morpeth, but as i approached from the grand village of Elsdon, there i past the gibbet on which hung the remains of Willie Winter, gipsy who was hanged for the murder of Margaret Crazier in 1791. strange that the memory of this deed should be so fresh to-day; the body was decayed piecemeal, but a wooden model of the head, which said to bear some resemblanoe to him, still hangs there.  I can vouch for an eerie feeling passing the Steng Cross, it is called, in the twilight. It is one of the most desolate places you can imagine.

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Wednesday 28 October 1812
  Bury and Norwich Post
  Suffolk
   
 J. Winter, a hawker and pedlar, up on chargers



Wednesday 28 January 1835
 Derby Mercury
  Derbyshire   


-On the same day, another Inquest was held at the Hare and Hounds, Stone-gravels, on the body of Sarah Winter, aged 31 years, the wife of John Winter gipsy, and travelling dealer in earthen ware, who came by her death under the following awful and melancholy circumstances it appeared at the inquest  that the deceased, was with part of her family, together with her husband and another man, they arrived at Whittington Moor on Sunday from Sheffield, and it would seem they had been drinking on the road. On their arrival at the above place they adjourned to a public-house, where they then spent the remainder of the evening In drinking. About ten o'lock, Winter and his wife went to Mr. Walker’s pottery in a slate of intoxication, together with the person who accompanied them, who, with the children, then they went to sleep in the straw shed and the deceased and her husband  went into two of the workrooms, each taking a separate one. In the room where the deceased was, there was fire, before which she fell asleep. Between one and two in the morning, a person named Bradshaw, residing near the place, perceived a strong stench, as of something burning, he therefore went to examine the place, and thinking, the workshop was on fire, he called Mr.Walker up, who, with others assistance discovered the body of the deceased, which but a short time before possessed the energies and powers of an able bodied woman in the prime of life, now completely burned to a cinder, there not being a vestige of clothing except a small piece of her stays and a leathern pocket left on the body. We understand the deceased has left a family of eight children. The jury returned a verdict of accidental death.

 

Friday 29 March 1867
  Stamford Mercury
  Lincolnshire
   
John Elliott and John Winter, gipsy horse dealers, were charged by sergeant bones with being drunk  and refusing to quit the Leeds Arms public-house.