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Re: Granny Hayden 1950s
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 22 January 25 18:40 GMT (UK) »
purely speculative at the moment
Mark Hayden married to Anne Byrne was a foreman corporation inspector around the Francis Street area before 1900 two of his sons John a Pavior and James a labourer worked in the corpo
Mark had a son Edward born 1882
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1883/02750/2010548.pdf

Edward Married Alicia O'Brien a widow nee Christie 1912
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1912/09922/5606876.pdf

Alicia's first marriage to Nicholas O'Brien 1897
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1897/10454/5806826.pdf

an Edward Hayden died at 69 Tolka Rd 1949 age 67 he appears to have been a Pavior
157 here
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1949/04536/4195989.pdf

Alica died 1950 same address
254 here
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1950/04517/4189087.pdf


Hi dathai, I wonder if this the same Mark Hayden of Francis Street, a carpenter who died in 1896.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1896/05900/4674028.pdf

looks like he and Anne may have formerly been at 10 Bishop Street.

Interestingly, if its the same Mark Hayden, he's described as a labourer at his daughter Ellen's Birth, now at 51 Francis Street

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1880/02886/2057725.pdf

and then as what looks like 'daughter of an oversees' when Ellen succumbs to Measles in 1882

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1882/06414/4842287.pdf

wonder what that refers to?

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Re: Granny Hayden 1950s
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 22 January 25 20:51 GMT (UK) »
The death registration says daughter of an overseer (possibly in a factory).
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Re: Granny Hayden 1950s
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 23 January 25 09:47 GMT (UK) »
ah, thank you!

I'm interested in Mark and Anne Hayden mainly because I think they had a son Denis Hayden b.1868

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1868/03442/2263899.pdf


I think he had the following siblings


FirstName             Surname   Born      Died   Address
Patrick                   Hayden   1866      ?           170 Townsend Street
Denis                    Hayden   1868      ?           10 Bishop Street
James                    Hayden   1869      ?           10 Bishop Street
Mark                       Hayden   1871      1874   17 New Street
Bridget                   Hayden   1877      ?           51 Francis Street
Mark                      Hayden   1878      1878   22 Francis Street
Ellen                       Hayden   1880      1882   51 Francis Street
Edward                  Hayden   1882       ?         51 Francis Street


I think Denis married before the turn of the century but I can't find a marraige record and it may be that the following is a record of a child

https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/a110550084936?b=https%3A%2F%2Fchurchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie%2Fchurchrecords%2Fsearch.jsp%3Fnamefm%3Dmary%2Bteresa%26namel%3Dhayden%26location%3D%26yyfrom%3D%26yyto%3D%26submit%3DSearch

Denis was in the Royal Dublin Fusiliers stationed to Quetta India between 1887 and 1894. He was discharged from the reserves in 1899 and ended up in Mounjoy for assault in 1904 and later he was in the workhouse in 1907. But I can't find a record of him or his 'family' after that.

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Re: Granny Hayden 1950s
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 23 January 25 10:17 GMT (UK) »
Daughter of unnamed born 18 Aug.1898 at Rotunda Hospital to Denis Hayden & Mary Smith-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1898/02074/1791810.pdf
Rotunda Hospital birth registrations often didn't list a Christian name for children but in this case birthdate, residence and parents match the baptismal record for Mary Teresa.
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Re: Granny Hayden 1950s
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 23 January 25 10:22 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Granny Hayden 1950s
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 23 January 25 10:28 GMT (UK) »
Thats terrific. thank you so much.

if this is the same Denis Hayden born to Mark and Anne in 1868 the age in the 1901 census is slightly out but maybe not significantly?

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1868/03442/2263899.pdf

I can't be certain its the same Denis Hayden but it is compelling. Now to find what happened to him and his Marys after 1907. I reckon after coming home from India he was labouring in Drumcondra building Millmount Ave between 1890 and 1905 when Thomas O'Connell was developing that site.

My search has all been triggered by this scratching on a brick i accidentally discovered down a lane off Millmount Ave in Drumcondra. Its taken me down a rabbit hole!

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Re: Granny Hayden 1950s
« Reply #15 on: Friday 24 January 25 10:53 GMT (UK) »
There is a Denis Hayden, (father Mark Hayden 51 Francis St.), who served in the Royal Dublin Fusiliers from 1887.

The placename QUETTA appears on his record.
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