Help Identifying Family Crest PLEASE!!!

[gcaso7176]

Hello!

I have this drawing of a family crest I am trying to identify. After doing some research, I realize that it is probably actually not finished. There is no surname/family name on the Crest, but I really would appreciate any and all help in identifying this in any way! I really need and would love to know more about this. Thank you!

[Rosinish]

Where was it found, what are family surnames you know of, all of which may help identifying what it represents?

Annie

[Viktoria]

Don,t know a lot about heraldry,there is a RootsChatter who really is very well informed, with a bit of luck they will see your post and be able to help.
My twopennorth for what it is worth , the stag at the very top could be the symbol of The White Hart,that was Richard The Second,Richard of Bordeaux
the son of The Black Prince.
There is a crown under the hart which may denote royalty or royal connections.
There is a special name for. The three flower like things on the diagonal bar.
I used to think that the left sloping bar was an indication that there was illegitimacy somewhere- the bar sinister but the expert I have mentioned said that was not the case.
Scroll back through,it must be several months ago but the person I mentioned has obviously done a great deal of work and iis really very
knowledgeable.
Best of luck.Viktoria.

[goldie61]

Are the 5 petalled flowers mean to be cinquefoils?
http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en-NZ&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=cinquefoil+in+heraldry&gbv=2&oq=cinquefoil+in+her&gs_l=heirloom-hp.1.0.0i22i30l7.1376.7659.0.11443.17.17.0.0.0.0.744.2435.3-2j1j1j1.5.0....0...1ac.1.34.heirloom-hp..12.5.2435.SbPvwbTvnok

Without any colours on the design, it might be a bit more difficult.

[gcaso7176]

Hi Annie!

I have no idea what surnames would be associated with it. This was found in the pages of an antique book called "Songs of the Heart" published in New York in 1872. The book was a gift for Christmas 1871 to 'Katie' from someone whose name I cannot identify. Please see the attached pictures to. Thanks!

[gcaso7176]

It seems to be drawn and colored with brown and black if you zoom in. How would I go back and find the RootsChatter? What topic or thread would that be under? I'm new to this site, so any help is appreciated! And that would be amazing if it was The White Hart, along with all of the other info you said! I'm not sure if they're meant to be cinquefoils or not. It seems that the drawing of those flowers varies quite a bit.

[lcsnor]

This link states how different colors are represented in Heraldry when colour not available.

https://www.houseofnames.com/blogs/Colors-of-Heraldry

So I assume this is a black background (sable) with a white band across it with the little flowers.

Not much help I know but it's something!

[Viktoria]

There is something not quite right,the book was published 1872 but was gifted Christmas 1871.
Wonder how that could be.
Viktoria.

[KGarrad]

The heraldic blazon would read:
Sable, on a bend argent 3 cinquefoils.

The representation of colours in simple pen and ink is called Hatching.
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatching_(heraldry)

I think the bend (the correct name for the stripe!) is cotised?
That is ther are 2 smaller bends outside the bend itself.
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bend_(heraldry)