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Napoleon Diamonds and family 1911 - St Helens, Prescott
« on: Friday 19 October 18 18:57 BST (UK) »
Idling around 1911 Leach Lane, Sutton where my great grandmother was living in 1910, I've just come across this wonderfully named family: Napoleon Diamond (b1854) and wife Ellen.

Children are Elizabeth, Hannibal, James and then Napoleon (junior) age 11. And even a Napoleon (grandson) age 4. Three of the family are colliers. All born Wigan.

Interesting names and an impressive change from all my Ellens, Nells and Nellies.
Somebody must be looking for them!

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Re: Napoleon Diamonds and family 1911 - St Helens, Prescott
« Reply #1 on: Monday 22 October 18 09:25 BST (UK) »
if anyone is - Napoleon and Ellen were both from the village of Hardybutts - and look at one witness - Julius Caesar Diamond -

Marriage: 22 Oct 1887 St Catharine, Wigan, Lancashire, England
 Napoleon Diamond - 34, Collier, Bachelor, 2 Barn Houses, Hardybutts
 Ellen Holland - (X), 26, Spinster, 2 Barn Houses, Hardybutts
     Groom's Father: James Diamond, Weaver
     Bride's Father: Ralph Holland, Labourer
     Witness: Jane Gould; Julius Coesar Diamond
     Married by Banns by: Alfred Webb Curate
     Register: Marriages 1883 - 1891, Page 114, Entry 228
     Source: Original register at Wigan Archives
 
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Re: Napoleon Diamonds and family 1911 - St Helens, Prescott
« Reply #2 on: Monday 22 October 18 13:24 BST (UK) »
Hardybutts is in the Scholes area of Wigan, a couple of hundred yards from St. Catherine's.

There were also brothers Constantine and Hannibal, according to the 1881 census. Earlier censuses show a sister Josephine beside the more prosaic Elizabeth and Louisa.

Incidentally, just searching for "Napoleon" brings up hundreds of hits, so it was a lot more popular a name than I thought!
Looking at ALSTON in south Ribble area, ALSTEAD and DONBAVAND/DUNBABIN etc. everywhere, HOWCROFT and MARSH in Bolton and Westhoughton, PICKERING in the Whitehaven area.

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Re: Napoleon Diamonds and family 1911 - St Helens, Prescott
« Reply #3 on: Monday 22 October 18 14:25 BST (UK) »
Coincidently another current thread is about Horatio Nelson, not the famous Admiral Lord Nelson, but an Irish contemporary.
Several boys born in England mid-late 19thC were named after Italian patriot Garibaldi.
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Re: Napoleon Diamonds and family 1911 - St Helens, Prescott
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 23 October 18 16:31 BST (UK) »
I am originally from St Helens. A friend of mine,  now deceased was called William Mercer. His father, another William, also had the middle name of Napoleon.William senior was captain of them St Helens rugby league team in the 1930's.     Tony Beaman
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