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Re: How often are civil records wrong?
« Reply #18 on: Monday 15 October 18 20:29 BST (UK) »
I decided to try look up margaret knotts father Edward.
Irishgenealogy have no hits for any marriages or births even without any dates in.
Every person I move on to I seem to hit a dead end.
The 1901 census if correct has a Margaret carbury as Margaret knotts mother yet I find no marriages between a knott and carbury.
I am truly unsure as to who to look at next as even ancestry isn’t giving me results when it’s worldwide.

There was a Margaret knott born to an Edward but it’s india and not Italy as the 1901 shows and I can’t access the record further as I don’t have the right package.

My Irish family seems to be a total mess :-(
Holmfirth, Austonley, Hoylandswaine etc: WIBBERLEY and FIELD
Marriages from above names to....CROOKS, WHITELEY, KAYE, DEARNALLY
Waterford, Ireland: POWER and SULLIVAN (Osullivan also)

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Re: How often are civil records wrong?
« Reply #19 on: Monday 15 October 18 21:28 BST (UK) »
If Margaret's name was Knott this may be a unnamed male sibling born at the Curragh Camp 1871 to Edward Knott,Private 51st Regiment and Margaret Hunt
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1871/03287/2204638.pdf

parents marriage 1870 C O E/I
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1870/11405/8188164.pdf


https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1901/10303/5750590.pdf

Margaret Carbery a waiters widow died 1918 age 72 informant was her daughter Margaret Power of 11 Blakes Lane
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1918/05177/4429303.pdf

Edward Knott a porter died 1883 Little Newton age 42 informant Margaret Knott widow
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1883/06372/4828640.pdf

Margaret Hunt/ Knott dtr of Thomas Hunt a Revenue officer married Richard Carbery 1890
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1890/10702/5901678.pdf

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Re: How often are civil records wrong?
« Reply #20 on: Monday 15 October 18 21:54 BST (UK) »
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: How often are civil records wrong?
« Reply #21 on: Monday 15 October 18 22:21 BST (UK) »
Wow thanks il have to check these out tomorrow.
We now have a birth of a Margaret knott in INDIA born 24 sept 1873 which seem plausible seen as I found nothing for Italy. Wonder if it was just wrote in wrong on that 1901 census.

Need to sleep and have fresh eyes on it all as well as print it so I can get it straight in my head.

Thank you all for the help. May not feel as stressed tomorrow now once I look at it properly and hopefully it all fits in place 😁
Holmfirth, Austonley, Hoylandswaine etc: WIBBERLEY and FIELD
Marriages from above names to....CROOKS, WHITELEY, KAYE, DEARNALLY
Waterford, Ireland: POWER and SULLIVAN (Osullivan also)

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Re: How often are civil records wrong?
« Reply #22 on: Monday 15 October 18 23:16 BST (UK) »
Just a matter of doing things one step at a time!
Give a man a record and you feed him for a day.
Teach a man to research, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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Re: How often are civil records wrong?
« Reply #23 on: Monday 15 October 18 23:17 BST (UK) »
I think David Power a sailor not tailor is trying to confuse us says he's only 40 he was a widower married again in 1883 to Margaret Cahill
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Waterford/Waterford_Town/New_Street/1763732/

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1887/10822/5947159.pdf
as he lists a son Thomas a barber age 27
same address as on Thomas's marriage
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1901/10303/5750590.pdf


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Re: How often are civil records wrong?
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 16 October 18 00:01 BST (UK) »
Yes thomas’s father was a sailor definately as it’s easy to read on the marriage....
I have to sort out thomas’s Birth/ mother then I can see who David actually married lol

Wish they all had more unusual names and not all the same!
Holmfirth, Austonley, Hoylandswaine etc: WIBBERLEY and FIELD
Marriages from above names to....CROOKS, WHITELEY, KAYE, DEARNALLY
Waterford, Ireland: POWER and SULLIVAN (Osullivan also)

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Re: How often are civil records wrong?
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 16 October 18 00:04 BST (UK) »
Oh dear god and if that’s the remarriage of David then his bloody father was a Thomas 🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

So my great grandfather power was David who’s father was Thomas who’s father was David who’s father is possibly a Thomas.

Oh lord I wish my gran had told me all this before she passed 😔
Holmfirth, Austonley, Hoylandswaine etc: WIBBERLEY and FIELD
Marriages from above names to....CROOKS, WHITELEY, KAYE, DEARNALLY
Waterford, Ireland: POWER and SULLIVAN (Osullivan also)

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Re: How often are civil records wrong?
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 16 October 18 00:11 BST (UK) »
Quote from: dathai on Monday 15 October 18 23:17 BST (UK)
I think David Power a sailor not tailor is trying to confuse us says he's only 40 he was a widower married again in 1883 to Margaret Cahill
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Waterford/Waterford_Town/New_Street/1763732/

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1887/10822/5947159.pdf
as he lists a son Thomas a barber age 27
same address as on Thomas's marriage
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1901/10303/5750590.pdf

But Thomas is listed as only being 23yrs when he marries in 01 and if that’s the right father of his then he’s out by 5 year all of a sudden

Grrrrr
Holmfirth, Austonley, Hoylandswaine etc: WIBBERLEY and FIELD
Marriages from above names to....CROOKS, WHITELEY, KAYE, DEARNALLY
Waterford, Ireland: POWER and SULLIVAN (Osullivan also)
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