Looking for John K. Lucy, Stockport, Cheshire 1851-1881

[Chattykathy]

I found that Solomon marriage previously ---  about time Maria finally got out from under her parents roof, dontcha think!

Of interest in Massachusetts in 1900

All "Spedding"
Stephen Widow 42 b. Dec. 1857 in Eng  Wool Sorter in Mill Immig. year: 1887
Frederick W. son  21 b. May 1879 Immig 1887
Beatrice M. dau  b. Sep 1886  Immi. 1887
Harriett "Mother" 50 b. Mar 1850 Immi. 1889    But mother to who??   

Immigration year corresponds to Clifford Spedding's birth in 1888 in Mass.   hmmmmmm

Hopefully above group will show in UK in 1881.

Great work, ec  --  are your eyes crossed yet?!

k

[ec]

1891

42 Aberdeen Crescent, Cheadle

  
 HADFIELD  
Thomas 1834 Cheadle, Cheshire, Head  Hat & Cap Buyer
John T 1864 Cheadle, Cheshire, Son  
Margaret E 1864 Stockport, Cheshire, Daughter in law  

RG12/2800 f 46 p14
RD Stockport  
Sub RD Stockport First  

I haven't been able to find Edwin/Edwina 1901 (probably on a sea trip)

Cant find Margaret and John Hadfield at the moment either (Probably on a sea trip)


1901

Florence K Spedding 1865  Stockport, Cheshire, Head  
Florence M Spedding 1886  Stockport, Cheshire, England Daughter  
Clifford Spedding 1888  United States Son  
James W Spedding 1890  Stockport, Cheshire, England Son  

RG13/3650 f24 p13
RD  Bury  
Sub-RD Radcliffe  

55 Schoolside Road

Florence K is allegedly married but no sign of Fred  - guess where he is most likely to be/!

ec

[ec]

Hi

was just about to stop - time to crack open a bottle of wine here and start dinner

but I found Fred - doing a spot in HM Prison

RG13/3771
RD  Prestwich 
SubRD  Cheetham 
ED His Majestys Prison 
Folio   94 
Page   12


Fred Spedding 1864  Heaton Norris, Joiner, Lancashire, Prisoner 

Looks like you need a lookup of the quarter sessions now!

Perhaps thats why they kept disappearing....

ec

[Chattykathy]

OOOOHHHHH --  finally found a felon!!  How interesting!?

Wonder what he did to enjoy HM's hospitality?!

ec, thanks so much for your brilliant work!! 

Enjoy your dinner and more importantly that bottle of wine!

Now to find out what all those sea trips were all about!

k

[ec]

my eyes are crossed -

Annie if you are still there, the first 'from memory' could be occurring!

ec

[liverpool annie]

Oh Honey!!

You'd better go lay down!!

Don't want you falling down from memory here!!

Annie

[Chattykathy]

I'm sure she is lurking/skulking?  with a quip to follow

[ec]

OK

Memory erased (its amazing what a couple of glasses of wine can do!)

Chatty - I want to know what he did - when you find out and I want to know what all those sea voyages were about - surely more than a replacement for TV

ec

[Chattykathy]

ec, glad that wine did the trick!   Could use a glass or two myself!

Spedding family providing no clues ---  tied the group found in US in 1900 back to UK 1881 --  they are wool sorters in both places.  Also, found a few other Speddings in Mass. In 1900 but all textile workers or some sort so not seeing a connection to Exporting or furniture sales, or frequent sea voyages etc.  Also our felonious character Fred has a different birthplace than that group --  so maybe no connection of any kind anyway

I have a wild theory on John Lucy ---  Maria's father was a Reporter, Stationer, Printer and her brother Edwin was also a Printer's apprentice at 15 and in 1861 a Reporter/printer  ---  thinking John Lucy may have been involved with something of that nature so travelling extensively perhaps to US. 

(Haven’t found son/bro Edwin King after 1861 either!)

Tricky part is trying to find where John Lucy died --  if in UK or US or elsewhere??  Have NO details on him as to when born, where born ---  nothing.  Somebody on the board said they found several possibles for him in 1861 but apparently didn't want to do the look ups  --- so don’t know if he was found living a part from Maria, kids, King family or what?!     Several John Lucy’s died in the likely time frame but without a probable age for him  --  no way to rule in or out!

Sooooooo   he will continue to be an international man of mystery and intrigue for a while longer!   

Thanks for all your help today.  Brilliant job in filling in a whole family limb!

ciao
kathy