HELP - Callaghan Family, Ireland (Edward, Catherine, Mary, John and Ellen)

[heywood]

I can only view a transcript of 1851 census but in the list of people there are two Boyles - John 26yrs and Neil 15yrs both transcribed as ’mother’.

[Rosinish]

Transcription;

Edward Callaghan 37 abt 1814
Spouse Catherine Callaghan 65 abt 1786
Mother John Boyle 26 abt 1825

1851 SP Index differs for Catherine;

CALLAGHAN CATHERINE 45
651/ 39/ 6 Airdrie or New Monkland Lanark

It looks as though there are errors somewhere/maybe on both as 'Mother' wouldn't be listed unless she was the mother of the head of house?

Have you seen the original to see if Edward was a widower?

Annie

[Rosinish]

Can you clarify what Helen's age was when she married in 1857 please?

Helen was only 2 yrs old on 1851 census & father was a Pit Labourer.

I think you may have gone off the trail somehow?

Edward;
1851 Pit Labourer
1857 Navy
Helen's death Railway Surfaceman

Debating on whether this is your Helen/Ellen who would have been 1 yr old in 1851 rather than 2 yrs old?

Ellen Callaghan
Baptism Age 0
Born 1850
Baptised 31 Mar 1850
Baptised Banteer, Cork, Ireland
Residence Upper Gtmore
Parish Variants Clonmeen
Diocese Cloyne
Mother Catherine Callaghan

Annie

[samalexander]

Here is all I know-

I’m related through Agnes Marley (born abt 1877, Daughter of Peter Marley and Helen Callaghan according to Agnes’ marriage certificate in 1894)
Peter Marley was recorded as deceased at time of Agnes’ marriage but Helen Callaghan was still alive (in 1894)

The only marriage on ScotlandsPeople that could fit for Agnes’ parents was 1857 in Airdrie - Peter Marley (aged 18) and Ellen Callaghan (aged 17, Ellen’s parents recorded as Edward Callaghan, Navy and Catherine Bayls)

Then in 1913, the death of Helen Callaghan widow of Peter Marley, aged 71 (so the husband is the same and the age matches up with the age at marriage, her parents are recorded as Edward Callaghan, deceased railway surfaceman and Catherine McClarty also deceased)

[Rosinish]

I’m related through Agnes Marley (born abt 1877, Daughter of Peter Marley and Helen Callaghan according to Agnes’ marriage certificate in 1894)
Peter Marley was recorded as deceased at time of Agnes’ marriage but Helen Callaghan was still alive

Have you traced Agnes in all census', where was she born & do dates/places match?

Helen was aged 9 yrs in 1851 on SP index which is a better fit than aged 2!

I think you need to find the birth for Agnes to move up/on?

I would also be checking the 1851 as something is wrong somewhere?

Annie

[hallmark]

Here is all I know-

I’m related through Agnes Marley (born abt 1877, Daughter of Peter Marley and Helen Callaghan according to Agnes’ marriage certificate in 1894)
Peter Marley was recorded as deceased at time of Agnes’ marriage but Helen Callaghan was still alive (in 1894)

The only marriage on ScotlandsPeople that could fit for Agnes’ parents was 1857 in Airdrie - Peter Marley (aged 18) and Ellen Callaghan (aged 17, Ellen’s parents recorded as Edward Callaghan, Navy and Catherine Bayls)

Then in 1913, the death of Helen Callaghan widow of Peter Marley, aged 71 (so the husband is the same and the age matches up with the age at marriage, her parents are recorded as Edward Callaghan, deceased railway surfaceman and Catherine McClarty also deceased)

Doesn't mean it is correct Marriage!

[Rosinish]

The marriage in 1857 is a good bit prior to 1877 (birth of Agnes) i.e. have you found any siblings for Agnes born 1857 - 1877?

Do you have the family on 1861 1871 & 1881 census'?

Annie

[Rosinish]

I’m related through Agnes Marley (born abt 1877, Daughter of Peter Marley and Helen Callaghan according to Agnes’ marriage certificate in 1894)
Peter Marley was recorded as deceased at time of Agnes’ marriage but Helen Callaghan was still alive (in 1894)

Does Agnes' marriage state her mother as Helen Callaghan or Helen Marley m.s. Callaghan?

Annie

[heywood]

The marriage in 1857 is a good bit prior to 1877 (birth of Agnes) i.e. have you found any siblings for Agnes born 1857 - 1877?

Do you have the family on 1861 1871 & 1881 census'?

Annie

I can see the various transcripts of the family through the censuses with children added each census.
1901
Helen Marley 62 yrs with grandson James in New Monkland.
1891
Peter and Helen and several children in Airdrie.