Karl Johan Sundgren of Lulea, Sweden

[crozier]

Has anyone information on my elusive greatgrandfather Karl Johan Sundgren  21/1/1850-12/12/1914, born Lulea, Norrbotten? Married Karolina Hansdottir Pettursen 1851-1937, with a son Peter George Augustus Sundgren (Sandgrove)1876-1924. All assistance appreciated.

[jamcat95]

Hi
Here is the family in 1884 in Nederluleċ:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mqm/

Petter August birth - 5 May 1876 - illegitimate:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mqn/

Ian

[jamcat95]

There seems to be no record stating who the father is.
Karl Johan and Karolina were married 1 July 1880 with the bann beginning 7th March 1880:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mqv/


What information are you looking for?


Ian

[jamcat95]

The last record for Petter August Sundgren is from 1904.

He was put in the missing persons book in 1904. Explanation:
https://www.arkivdigital.net/swedish-genealogy/non-existing-persons-book

He was a seaman and most probably left Sweden around 1904.


Ian

[crozier]

Grandad Peter can be found in the Dreadnaught Seaman's hospital Greenwich, 1899. suffering Cirrosis of the liver, he had been working on the steam tug "Lulu". 1901 found him in the census at Sculcoates, Hull, and married at West Ham 1907.
I would really like to find out more about his parents Karl and Karolina, and their parents...
Thanks for all the information gleaned so far.

[jamcat95]

Hi
Cheers.
The problem is that I don't think Karl is the father as he wasn't living there at that time.

[jamcat95]

Here is Carolina's family:


1836 - Marriage - Hans Petter Jönsson and Sara Greta Nilsdotter - 6 March - Nederluleċ Parish:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mr3/

1851 - Birth - Carolina Hansdotter - Jan 5 - Nederluleċ Parish:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mr0/

1852 - Household Examination - Carolina and family - Nederluleċ Parish:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mr4/

1863 - Household Examination - Carolina and family - Nederluleċ Parish:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mr5/

1870 - Death - Carolina Hansdotter - 13 Nov - Nederluleċ Parish:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mr6/

1874 - Household Examination - Carolina and family - Nederluleċ Parish:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mr2/

1880 - Household Examination - Carolina and Petter, and at top of page her father and siblings - Nederluleċ Parish:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mr1/

1882 - Death - Hans Petter Jönsson - 5 July - Nederluleċ Parish:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mr7/


I am unable to find her parents' birth records.


Ian

[jamcat95]

1901 found him in the census at Sculcoates, Hull.....

I took a look at the census. The minister wrote him in the missing persons book in 1904 after he realised that Peter wasn't going to return to the parish.

Ian

[jamcat95]

Here is a note from the minister regarding Petter August saying that he was from Karoline's last marriage although she wasn't married before:

"Hennes son föregċende äktenskap"