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Re: Ancestry tree rubbish
« Reply #306 on: Monday 18 March 19 10:16 GMT (UK) »
Edward Scott, your issues look to me like simple calendar mix-ups - you know, the usual Julian/Gregorian stuff.

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Re: Ancestry tree rubbish
« Reply #307 on: Monday 18 March 19 11:55 GMT (UK) »
Wills are a godsend. I always trace the witnesses to the wills as well. Often they were the parish clerk or a local pillar of the community but they could be relatives as well, in laws etc to the testator or cousins.........

I do use Ancestry trees as inspiration, like many of us do.


I have found witness to marriages a great help too.  With a couple of my older marriages in 2 or 3 generations the same name appeared with same surname as the female which was a great help. Land records helped too discovering 3 x step grandmothers relatives, as when she and family emigrated 1820  the land in her husbands possession which came from his first wife's family was taken over by a man with same surname as her maiden name.  This opened a lot of doors. Would have been even better with a 1821/1831 census ??? but 1841 did help a bit.
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Re: Ancestry tree rubbish
« Reply #308 on: Monday 18 March 19 22:28 GMT (UK) »
Wills are a godsend. I always trace the witnesses to the wills as well. Often they were the parish clerk or a local pillar of the community but they could be relatives as well, in laws etc to the testator or cousins.........

I do use Ancestry trees as inspiration, like many of us do.


I have found witness to marriages a great help too.  With a couple of my older marriages in 2 or 3 generations the same name appeared with same surname as the female which was a great help. Land records helped too discovering 3 x step grandmothers relatives, as when she and family emigrated 1820  the land in her husbands possession which came from his first wife's family was taken over by a man with same surname as her maiden name.  This opened a lot of doors. Would have been even better with a 1821/1831 census ??? but 1841 did help a bit.

From 1754 to June 1837 (just before civil reg begun which at least collected more info) witnesses to wedding are the best help if tracing elusive ancestors but you then get a kick in the teeth when you find the witnesses also witnessed the other 6 or 8 weddings on the same page and realise they were regular witnesses. I suppose we do expect too much with genealogy at times. The more records that are online, the better. Some may say that it may not be the same as actually being in a record office looking at film/fiche but at least you can do it without being told "one fiche at a time please" or "you have to put that bottle of water in the locker", or handling microfilm/fiche machines that are stiff, or the film has been rewound upside down, I have had plenty of those. Genealogy is a big hobby now and many people live hundreds or thousands of miles from where their ancestors lived.
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Re: Ancestry tree rubbish
« Reply #309 on: Monday 18 March 19 23:44 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: coombs link=topic=800691.msg6701053#msg6701053

From 1754 to June 1837 ([i
just before civil reg begun which at least collected more info[/i]) witnesses to wedding are the best help if tracing elusive ancestors but you then get a kick in the teeth when you find the witnesses also witnessed the other 6 or 8 weddings on the same page and realise they were regular witnesses. I suppose we do expect too much with genealogy at times. The more records that are online, the better. Some may say that it may not be the same as actually being in a record office looking at film/fiche but at least you can do it without being told "one fiche at a time please" or "you have to put that bottle of water in the locker", or handling microfilm/fiche machines that are stiff, or the film has been rewound upside down, I have had plenty of those. Genealogy is a big hobby now and many people live hundreds or thousands of miles from where their ancestors lived.
I'm hearing you with this. Try genealogical research from Australia. Gone are the days of going to the local LDS family history centre to look at microfilms ordered in, only to not find what you'd hoped. I do miss the camaraderie with fellow researchers, but not the narrow opening hours.
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Re: Ancestry tree rubbish
« Reply #310 on: Saturday 23 March 19 10:34 GMT (UK) »
Looks very confusing, or is it me?

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« Reply #311 on: Saturday 23 March 19 11:24 GMT (UK) »
Aha, the good old post burial baptism  :)
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« Reply #312 on: Saturday 23 March 19 16:48 GMT (UK) »
Aha, the good old post burial baptism  :)

I think most of these blatantly silly entries are just carelessness pinning a tail on the wrong donkey ?
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« Reply #313 on: Sunday 24 March 19 18:15 GMT (UK) »
One of mine was able to vote in West Yorkshire 200 years after death ::)

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« Reply #314 on: Sunday 24 March 19 18:20 GMT (UK) »
One of mine was able to vote in West Yorkshire 200 years after death ::)

In person or with a postal vote?  :)
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