Jane Roberts b c 1854 Llaniestyn

[Blueboy007]

Hello everyone, I am looking for help in tracking down more information on my Great Grandmother, Jane Roberts.

I can trace her from her marriage to Thomas Turner on the 24th January 1874, in Denio,Pwllheli. I can see her in the 1881, 1891, 1901 and 1911 census returns, I also have a copy of her death certificate from 1916.

Where I am struggling is finding where she was prior to her marriage in 1874. The marriage certificate shows that her father was a William Roberts, Labourer. One of the witnesses to the marriage is a John Roberts, possibly a relative of Jane.  I know from census returns that she was born in Llaniestyn.

I am trying to establish Jane's mother's name, so I can hopefully then order her parents marriage certificate and possibly find a birth certificate for Jane.

I cannot find Jane in the 1861 Census. I have a possibility in the 1871 returns, a William, Ellen and Jane at Lleyn Street, Pwllheli.

Any help finding her parents would be greatly appreciated.

Stephen

[despair]

These records might be worth considering, but I can't find 1861 equivalents

1851 HO107/2514/156/3
Eleanor Roberts,given born Llangwnadl as per the 1871 Lleyn Street,Ag lab wife,husband elsewhere,son John Roberts

1851 HO107/2514/125/2
Wiliam Roberts given born Llaniestyn as pert the 1871 census,working as an Ag lab

Regards
Roger

[suzard]

Hello everyone, I am looking for help in tracking down more information on my Great Grandmother, Jane Roberts.

I cannot find Jane in the 1861 Census. I have a possibility in the 1871 returns, a William, Ellen and Jane at Lleyn Street, Pwllheli.

Any help finding her parents would be greatly appreciated.

Stephen

On the 1871 census you mentioned did you notice next door lived John Roberts age 30 lab b Rhiw wife Mary and 3 children

Suz

[despair]

I missed it first time round,but parts of the 1861 census are missing,including Denio,Pwllheli.Perhaps,unfortunately,that is where they were.

Regards
Roger

[despair]

In my opinion the family I have identified in 1851 are consistent with a marriage of Dec qtr 1838 between William Roberts and Ellinor Jones,given by NorthWalesBMD as in Llaniestyn.I would urge you to consider subscribing at least for a single month(£5) to www.yffor.com where this area is considered in detail.

Regards
Roger

[Blueboy007]

Thank you Roger and thank you Suz, that is really useful. I had not noticed the John next door. I will look at that.

I will subscribe to the yffor site too at the weekend.

Thanks again for your great assistance, I do appreciate it.

Best wishes

Stephen

[Glynm]

If you are subscribing to Yffor.com you will find William Roberts baptism in Llaniestyn. Roberts was patronymic. Unfortunately records for Llangwndal only cover the period 1813-1959 and it appears Ellin was born around 1810.

Glyn

[despair]

....and,interestingly,in the 1841 census I believe he may be listed in the non-patronymic form William Jones!,with his son William "following suit".

Regards
Roger

[despair]

THere is some evidence that Elinor(1810) may be listed under Tydweiliog.

Regards
Roger