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Re: Jewish birth record Berlin
« Reply #36 on: Thursday 25 May 23 19:04 BST (UK) »
I have now found he was definetly born Berlin 1920 and in 1939 he was in Golders Green,Middx, and he definately died 1984 in Burnham on sea but at some point he changed his surname to Clayton/klayton.Looking for a marriage for him and details of his family in berlin Germany pre 1939.His father was Aaron kleinman(likely spelling)
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Re: Jewish birth record Berlin
« Reply #37 on: Thursday 25 May 23 21:00 BST (UK) »
From the 1939 Register entry and the amendment to Benjamin's name to Clayton, this could have been modified at any time in later years.

His surname in 1939 showed as KLAJMAN.

Assuming he kept this surname for some years, there is this possible marriage:

Marriage 3rd Qrt 1942
Benjamin Klajman and Mary E Collins
Birmingham
6d/971

With this spelling of Klajman, there are two girl births in Birmingham, with mother's maiden name showing as Collins. This includes one for a R J Klajman (9c/788).

See also https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C11845508

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Re: Jewish birth record Berlin
« Reply #38 on: Thursday 25 May 23 21:36 BST (UK) »
Benjamin looks to have left a will. From the National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations):

Clayton, Benjamin of 14 Grove Road, Burnham-on-Sea, Somerset died on 28 May 1984. Adminstration Llandaff...

And as you found, you have the match in birth date of 27 Mar 1920 on his 1939 Register entry and death registration.

There is also a death reg and Will index entry for his wife Mary Edith who died 8 October 1985. Same address details, 14 Grove Road, Burnham-on-Sea, Somerset.

She was a little older than Benjamin. Her birth date on her death reg is showing as 29 May 1912.

As for Benjamin's history in Berlin, hopefully someone can advice further  :)

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Re: Jewish birth record Berlin
« Reply #39 on: Thursday 25 May 23 21:58 BST (UK) »
Right I have everything in England now for him and now I need to find his German records and the records for his family.I have looked on the mormon site but cannot find him!!!
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Re: Jewish birth record Berlin
« Reply #40 on: Friday 02 June 23 08:53 BST (UK) »
Hello,

Ancestry International has a lot of records for Berlin which include the marriage record of:

14 Mar 1918
Aron s/o Rifka Malka Kleinmann (also Klaymann), b. 13 Mar 1894 Lodz, Poland and
Emma d/o Friedrich Wilhelm Henseleit, b. 1 Feb 1896 Berlin

Aron's mother was still alive and living in Zgierz near Lodz.

The marriage certificate has two lengthy additional notes. The first dated 4 Oct 1935 corrects the spelling of the surname to Klajman.

The second dated 16 Oct 1939 states that Emma Kleinmann née Henseleit had formally left the Jewish community of Berlin. She was originally Catholic according to her birth certificate.

I didn't notice the new topic 'Benjamin Kleinmann'.
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