John Hammer Harry from Cornwall

[Lazarus]

My great grandfather was a Cornish miner born 1837 St Mewan.
I believe he came to Australia 1858 on "Storm Cloud" arriving Port Adelaide.This is not proven. I cannot find where he was for several years.
By 1864 he had apparently settled El Dorado Victoria. In 1865 he married at Beechworth Victoria.
A large family was raised in El Dorado. In later years he lived in Rutherglen Victoria.
I now have evidence which suggests he may have taken a trip back to Cornwall in March1902 on "Sophocles" departing Albany W.A. It is unknown how or why he travelled via W.A. This is a mystery.
Apparently he returned to Australia late 1902 on "Moravia".
He died 1915 at Rutherglen and is buried at Carlyle Cemetery.
I am very interested to learn further details as by 1902 his parents and siblings with the exception of a younger brother Henry had died.
Henry was innkeeper at "Seven Stars Inn " St Austell. It is possible that was his destination.

Can anyone help with passenger lists or other snippets of information?
I think he travelled alone.

With thanks.

[judb]

To save duplication there are many threads re this man; some shown here:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=665354.0
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=763113.0
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=547800

Judith

[Lazarus]

Hello Judith
I am familiar with those threads.
I am revisiting because only recently became aware that he made a trip back home. A newspaper item states that he had gone to Melbourne intending to take a trip to Cornwall. A big undertaking more than 100 years ago.
I am hoping that a passenger list might help me further develop the search.
I am unable to confirm if quoted ships are correct.

Thanks

[giblet]

My great grandfather was a Cornish miner born 1837 St Mewan.
I believe he came to Australia 1858 on "Storm Cloud" arriving Port Adelaide.This is not proven.

Maybe someone else can find further info to help confirm his your fellow.

Storm Cloud, 907 tons, Captain James Campbell, from Plymouth 12th February 1858, arrived at Port Adelaide

GE =   General Emigrants
Harry   John   Aged 20   Miner   -   Cornwall

http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/stormcloud1858.shtml

edited.. Sorry i just seen this information is on another post.

[Lazarus]

Thank you giblet.
So far as I can determine he arrived Port Adelaide on "Storm Cloud) 1858 and arrived EjDorado/Beechworth a few years later. No record of him until he married 1865 Beechworth.
Ovens and Murray Advertiser (Beechworth) 15 March 1902 indicates he had gone to Melbourne intending to travel to Cornwall.

Web: Victoria, Australia, Outward Passenger Index, 1852-1915
Name J Mr Harry
Age 62
Birth Year abt 1840
Departure Date Mar 1902
Departure Place Victoria, Australia
Destination LONDON CAPETOWN NATAL ALBANY
Ship SOPHOCLES
Ship's Master SCHLEMANN H A
Page 2
URL https://www.prov.vic.gov.au/explore-collection/explore-topic/passenger-records-and-immigration

He returned to Australia late 1902.
Did he return on "Moravia"?

[willsy]

I did find this,

Royal Cornwall Gazette 15 May 1902
The re-interment of the late Mr. Harry (cousin of Mr. Harry, of the Seven Stars Inn) takes place at our cemetery today. The deceased, who lived at Westbourne-terrace, died about 4 mths since, and was exhumed and conveyed to St. Austell by G. W. Railway

[Lazarus]

Thank you Willsey.
A great find.
I was expecting that John Harry would likely go to see his brother at the Seven Stars Inn.
A related William Henry Harry had died early 1902 so might help explain.