Jules F Anseline, Mauritius, gold & slaves

[Gold prospector]

Dear JM,
I checked with the Archivist from Bathurst Catholic Archives who was able to provide me with a photo of the original entry for Jules and Mary in the Carcoar Marriage Register.
However, the parents were not mentioned.
The only additional information in the handwritten document was that they were married in '...private house...' and that he was born '...in France...'
So, I assume that the Minister was doing his rounds of the various gold-mining settlements and, when he got back to the Rectory (? a couple of weeks later), he filled out the Registry for memory or from rough notes (probably the reason he put down Jules' birthplace as France)....
 

[majm]

Dear JM,
I checked with the Archivist from Bathurst Catholic Archives who was able to provide me with a photo of the original entry for Jules and Mary in the Carcoar Marriage Register.
However, the parents were not mentioned.
The only additional information in the handwritten document was that they were married in '...private house...' and that he was born '...in France...'
So, I assume that the Minister was doing his rounds of the various gold-mining settlements and, when he got back to the Rectory (? a couple of weeks later), he filled out the Registry for memory or from rough notes (probably the reason he put down Jules' birthplace as France)....
 

I am still wondering ... on the image you have received, how are the signatures of the bride and groom recorded ... are they in same hand writing as the rest of the document, or are they possibly the actual signatures...   If they are in same hand writing, likely they are, as you say, the  summary record that was required to be transmitted through to the diocese and to the NSW bdm.   But if they are their actual signatures then likely there's nowhere else to search of the  info given first hand by Jules about himself and his parents when he married.     

JM

[majm]

Mauritius ... former name ... Ile de France 

 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_de_France_(Mauritius)

genealogy sites :  (per Mr Google  )
https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Mauritius_Genealogy
https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Mauritius_Religious_Records
https://forebears.io/mauritius

JM     

[Gold prospector]

On the document, where it says 'This Marriage was solemnised between us...', the two names, Jules Anseline and Mary Morris appear to have been handwritten by the same person. In fact, the rest of the handwriting is consistent with the same individual.....

The Minister couldn't remember "Ile de France"....he only recalled "..France..."

Many thanks for those links for Mauritius... will check them out.

[majm]

Yes,     so there's still the chance that the original register that they signed has not yet been located by those at Bathurst....     It is actually church law that those registers are never deliberately destroyed...  I will pull thinking cap down harder ...

ADD, the info on the image from Bathurst should actually give you confidence that when the original register is found that it will have all the info you seek.      Jules likely was truthful.   

JM

[Gold prospector]

Is it worth my while to give the Bathurst Archivist a call to see if a further search might bring up something?

[majm]

    

Don't phone,  best to write - snail or email ... 

http://www.bathurst.catholic.org.au/?i=74&diocesan-archives

The Diocese policy statement:

file:///C:/Users/Bill/Downloads/ATTENTION%20ALL%20FAMILY%20RESEARCHERS.pdf 

email enquiry often works best, and I notice there's a fee mentioned.

JM.

[Gold prospector]

I wrote to the Archivist at Bathurst who confirmed he had not seen a document with their signatures but promised to definitely keep an eye out for it as he goes about his work....

[Gold prospector]

Dear JM,
Two things:

1) A propos of your post about Forbes being the repository for a possible 1873 (Parkes) birth (?baptismal) document on Everest, would it be worth my while contacting the Catholic Church (or Courthouse) there to see what they have or should I wait to see what your elderly rellie suggests?

2) Regarding Jules, the Archivist I wrote to subsequently found, by chance, Baptismal records for 3 of his other children (they were all baptised at Frenchmans Reef the day before the Marriage!!) and he has forwarded me a photo of the relevant page from the registry book . For this I was very grateful, especially as he did this as a courtesy. However, I take your point that, for a formal, detailed investigation otherwise, that there is mention, on the website, of a fee.  As per your other 'Jules' post (about the possibility of the original document still being in existence, 21/8/18), has there been any success from 'pulling the thinking cap down harder'?!!
P.