old pubs

[cassie18]

Hi again. I've tried Genuki but only same as on Census. I'm going to try the Yorkshire Alehouses suggested by Pennines. To check Ancestry I would have to join again So I will probably try Find My Past first. Thanks for everyone's help.

[cassie18]

No indeed you are probably not going to however if you were asking something I knew about I would certainly offer to advise. I put my request here as it stated "when you are not sure etc" This is my lighthearted reply.

[[Ray]]

Are you talking about Brotherton ( Yorkshire ) or Brotherton ( West Lothian )?     

[cassie18]

I didn't know there was another Brotherton!  I'm referring to the one in Yorkshire, its near Pontefract. I've learned something else tonight then.

[[Ray]]

Cassie18

"We" have helped you before "2 1/2 years " ago on the subject of "Old Pubs".     


Example     

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=739392.msg5856236#msg5856236



Websites change, die, are ressurected.We are still here to help . . . . .

  Ray

[cassie18]

Yes Ray I did mention in my initial post that I'd talked about it before. I looked up the replies from back then and followed the links but didnt find this particular pub. I asked again because there is always a chance that somebody already knows about that very pub or knows where I might find it. Please dont for one moment think I'm being lazy as I'd already looked myself and found nothing. The pub index I was talking about in that first post was run by 2 men. It had lots of pubs from all over the UK on the list. I added those i know from my family Selby and Ferrybridge area but I'm talking about many years ago now but cant pin it down to a particular year. Sad its long gone.

[Maiden Stone]

Just another thought - - not sure exactly where Brotherton is -- but there are West Yorkshire Alehouse Licences records on Ancestry -- you can find them via the Card Catalague. Having looked though they don't seem to cover Brotherton.

The local archives should have alehouse licenses though, but whether these are by the name of the applicant or simply in batches of licence applications - i@m afraid I don't know.

Might be worth checking with them -- it's finding the right Archives though -- York? Northallerton? Genuki may tell you if you look at Brotherton information.

I found my Lancashire innkeepers in Quarter Sessions records in Lancashire Archives by entering the surname on "Advanced Search" form. The recognizances stated pub names.
What about adverts in local newspapers? "Mr John xxx wishes to intimate that he has taken possession of The Brown Cow …". 

[cassie18]

Hi, the Archives were in Wakefield but the building was closed as some things were moving. I will have to check to see what happened. Newspaper search is a good idea, I will try that thanks. Sometimes just putting a surname plus newspapers can bring in surprising results. I found a small accident that way that named 2 relatives i didnt know about as it gave family details.

[[Ray]]

[ Amended ]     

Hi     
I have trawled 1891 and 1901 for Brotherton ( Yorkshire )       

Itemised (by the Census Enumerator) are . . . .       

 1891     
Jolly Sailor Inn     
Anchor Inn     
Commercial Inn     
Three Horse Shoes     

      "Public House" Highstreet (Stephen Chadwick 73 bBrotherton)       
(1881 shows this as "The Ship" run by Stephen Chadwick. He dies 1906? )     
(1881 RG11 4586 8 Page10 Brotherton District 8     
Schedule line #50 High Street The Ship Stephen Chadwick 60, Lic.vituler, b Brotherton with Wife Ellen 61)     


The Fox (?) Inn         
The Punch Bowl     

1901     
Jolly Sailor Inn     
Anchor Inn     
Commercial Inn     
Three Horse Shoes     
Limepit Inn     
Fox & Commercial Inn     



Ray