Help Needed Again Please

[geoff_43]

Hi heywood,

You are correct in the marriage. Lesson learnt - type what I know, not what I think I know.

Geoff

[geoff_43]

Hi All,

Thanks for all the work you have been doing on this.

The Ryell family at No. 167 Portland Road seem worth me pursuing. 

Does any one else feel it odd Harry could give DOB for two children on WW1 papers, but just an age for John?

Geoff

 

[mckha489]

In 1911 ,165 Portland Road was a lodging house run by Arthur and Katherine Strange.

1915 -Electoral register
165 Portland Rd is Arthur Strange
167 Portland Rd is Ernest Alfred Ryell


Florence Ryell is née Strange.  At their marriage in 1910 they both give their address as 165 Portland Road. 

Yes, I agree most odd just an age for John

[Annette7]

I wonder if John could have been born in St. Helier and a lawful son. We know that Edith and the 2 children were in Jersey in 1911, they finally married there that year. Was she already pregnant with 'John'? Perhaps Harry wasn't around at the time the birth and by the time he found out Edith had run off. He might not have known the child's birth date and brought the 3 of them back to England where Daniel and Ethel were sent to Little Hampton and he found someone to care for John . When he enlisted he needed to formally appoint a guardian but sounds like they didn't keep him and guardianship passed to another. If it had been an illegitimate child of his surely the child would have been with it's mother rather than him being responsible for appointing a Guardian when he enlisted. Certainly sounds as if there was no mother around.

Can't explain why John's details crossed through unless he died.

Annette

[geoff_43]

Hi Annette,

An interesting suggestion and not one I had considered. Edith may have died pre 1914 but I've found no records for her death.

But then why put 2 children in an orphanage and not the 3rd?

Geoff