WDYTYA - Marvin Humes

[heywood]

There is this one

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QQR1-C6Z

Siblings Ellen and Mary match the records

  maybe not but lots of similarities

1911 I think this is the same family - mmn Madden
I can’t find a birth for Frederick but others match
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWLX-42D

I wonder if the family kept together except Frederick.

I would imagine that the family were researched and, if this is the rest of the family, they were considered not relevant to the search.

[susieroe]

On the seaman's service record shown to Marvin, he is Frederick George Buckingham, date of birth 27th April 1892., born Chelsea. That doesn't add up with the ages given on the workhouse records, or with the family of Frederick, Mary Ann [Madden], Ellen and Mary. Plus, this couple had another son, William David, in December qtr. 1892. I don't know, but I sort of suspect they've got two Frederick Buckinghams here, although that family fits well in many ways.

[heywood]

I think William died and there was also a girl Susan who was older than Ellen, I think. Perhaps the wrong family.
Maybe that is why they didn’t bother going back - too difficult.
I will have to have another look at the programme.

[heywood]

Had another look and the family in 1911 is the right one - matches the newspaper article.
His Merchant Navy record showed 1889 which fits the w/house records.
I still can’t find a birth so will leave it there, I think. I don’t want to detract from the thread.

[carol8353]

He seemed to be in the workhouse with just a mum and siblings,and yet later they mentioned both parents. I thought at first she may have been a single mum.

[heywood]

The Workhouse records show her as married and they are a family in 1891.

[heywood]

Just to add that William didn’t die.
1901 shows Mary with son William.

I do think this is the right family but accept that it might not be 

[ThrelfallYorky]

Like many others, I'd never heard of the chap, but enjoyed the programme. I also noted the comment to his mum near the start that he'd do her side later - and he did.
"Wow" is at least preferable to "Amazing" all the time. Like many other ones, there are sidelines we all think should have / could have been explored, but after all it is a programme for all, rather than for really detailed specialist consumption. It seems many of us amuse ourselves further by following up various clues given in different programmes - and that's good, surely, adding interest?
This series does seem to be better, and has at least largely got away from "Your great grandfather was a baker, so here's some dough and let's make a loaf" that was really starting to annoy me in an earlier series.
Oh dear, soon be at the end of the series ... do hope that they'll do another!

[andyb1963]

One thing that irritated me was when they handed Marvin the medals.  The War Medal 1939-45 had an oak leaf emblem on the ribbon, which denotes a Mention in Despatches.  As this is a low level award for gallantry, one would have thought that the award would have been mentioned in the programme, unless it ended up on the cutting room floor.  If Fred didn't get the award then the emblem should have been removed from the ribbon, unless, of course, it was all done for effect.  A check of the London Gazette online didn't bring up an award of a Mention in Despatches for Fred.  The medals themselves are ten a penny, since they do not have the recipient's name engraved on them.  The MID, however, isn't given to everyone.  No reflection on Marvin who would have accepted the medals in good faith.