William Hollingsworth marriage

[cindym19721]

I've hit a brick wall and need a bit of help. The gentleman in the attached screenshot is the 3x Great Grandfather of my friend who I'm trying to help do a tree for. Now, the problem is this: I found his father's name on his marriage record (William Hollingsworth) and by searching the GRO I found the only record possible for his birth, mother's maiden name shown as COLLEN (listed as COLLIN on other possible births from the same time period). Problem is that I'm having no luck finding a marriage record for his mother and father, by searching either using his father's full name or his mother's maiden surname. I've also tried FreeBMD with no luck. Help!! Please?? I'm at a loss of where to look next.

[avm228]

Have you looked for Charles in his childhood censuses to see what his mother’s name was?

[cindym19721]

Have you looked for Charles in his childhood censuses to see what his mother’s name was?

As Charles was born after the 1851 census, he isn't on that. The only census's I've come across don't tally with the possible births of siblings so I'm unsure, hence the need for help 

[avm228]

Are you sure of the dates?

The Charles Hollingsworth whose death was registered in Bromley Jun qtr 1939 was aged 91, suggesting a birth c1848

[avm228]

And according to the censuses he was born in Bermondsey, not Essex!

[cindym19721]

And according to the censuses he was born in Bermondsey, not Essex!

Place of birth changed a few times on the census records, so I don't take that at face value.

Are you sure of the dates?

The Charles Hollingsworth whose death was registered in Bromley Jun qtr 1939 was aged 91, suggesting a birth c1848

I'm aware of that, but GRO indexes only have one Charles Hollingsworth listed, and he was born in 1851 (possible bit of age fudging as he got older?), couldn't find any for 1848 at all

[avm228]

You say his place of birth changed “a few times” on the censuses?

1911: 63 b Bermondsey (free index)
1901: 53 b Bermondsey
1891: 43 b Bermondsey
1881: 33 b Bermondsey
1871: 23 b Bermondsey

Looks pretty consistent to me!  In 1871 he is with parents Charles and Rebecca.  RG10/740/134/6.

[cindym19721]

You say his place of birth changed “a few times” on the censuses?

1911: 63 b Bermondsey (free index)
1901: 53 b Bermondsey
1891: 43 b Bermondsey
1881: 33 b Bermondsey
1871: 23 b Bermondsey

Looks pretty consistent to me!  In 1871 he is with parents Charles and Rebecca.  RG10/740/134/6.

On his marriage certificate, his father is named as William Hollingsworth not Charles. So I don't think that is the right census, either that or he forgot his own father's name! Lol

[MaureeninNY]

Is he the one who married Clara CORK?

I was thinking about this one:
GRO BIRTHS:
HOLLINGWORTH, CHARLES       mmn ROLPH     
 1848  S Quarter in DUNMOW UNION  Volume 12  Page 86

Maureen