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Re: Kidd families
« on: Tuesday 31 July 18 00:41 BST (UK) »
My grandfather was Thomas Kidd. Lived in Brookeborough, County Fermanagh. He Died 14 years ago aged 86. He had a sister called Harriet who moved to Brooklyn NY. She married and became Franklin. All I've got but would appreciate any help with this

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Re: Re: Kidd families
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 31 July 18 01:54 BST (UK) »
Quote from: trottersyd on Tuesday 31 July 18 00:41 BST (UK)

My grandfather was Thomas Kidd. Lived in Brookeborough, County Fermanagh. He Died 14 years ago aged 86. He had a sister called Harriet who moved to Brooklyn NY. She married and became Franklin. All I've got but would appreciate any help with this


How firm is the information you have given? For example, a Thomas David Kidd was born to parents Thomas Irvine Kidd and Rachel Elizabeth Dunne of Corralongford townland, just NE of Brookeborough, but some years earlier than your indicated birth year:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1912/01471/1599521.pdf

The same couple also had a daughter Harriet Lila Kidd in 1918, but she went on to marry a John Aichinger in Belfast in 1942, the couple had a son in Northern Ireland and Harriett and the son sailed to New York in 1946, but from what I can see, they lived in Illinois.  (Harriett died in 2002.)

So, a bit different to your information, can these folk be eliminated? 

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Re: Re: Kidd families
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 31 July 18 09:35 BST (UK) »
Following on from gaffy's findings-
Thomas Irvine Kidd, wife Rachel & father Thomas in 1911-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Fermanagh/Corralongford/Corralongford/522054

Northern Whig (Belfast), 15 Dec.1942:  USA Soldier Weds Tyrone Girl Private A. Aichinger, who is now with the American Forces in Northern Ireland, was married yesterday St. Anne's Cathedral, Belfast. His bride. Miss Harriet Lilah Kidd, is the daughter of Mrs. T. Kidd, Corrylongford, Co. Tyrone, and the late Mr. Kidd. …

1946 manifest- https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24G4-ST1
Harriet born 18 Oct.1918- https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K1XK-MJ3
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Re: Kidd families
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 31 July 18 11:05 BST (UK) »
There's actually a picture of Harriet Aichinger, in an Illinois newspaper in 1949.

It is a group photo and appears on 30 June 1949. She is noted as being from Ireland, and is taking part, with the others in the picture, in Americanization and Citizenship classes.
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Re: Kidd families
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 31 July 18 12:50 BST (UK) »
The below are the Kidd children with births registered in Lisnakea (Via the birth index on family search - cross referenced to GRONI and Irish Genealogy)

Hamilton Kidd - Q4 1918
Thomas David Kidd -Q4 1912 (Mothers Maiden Name - Dunne)
Anthony Kidd - Q2 1915 - (Mother maiden Name - Hamilton)
Thomas Henry Kidd - Q1 1910 (Mother Maiden Name - Hamilton)
Charlotte Jane Kidd - Q4 1912 (Mother Maiden Name - Hamilton)
Harriet L Kid - Q4 1918
Joseph Alexander Kidd - Q3 1914 (Mother Maiden Name - Hamilton)

Thomas Kidd (widower) married Rachel Elizabeth Dun in Feb 1911
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1911/09939/5613763.pdf

William Kidd married Charlotte Hamilton in June 1905
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1905/10166/5698565.pdf



McClean, Kelly, Murray, Higgins, McAnulty (McNulty, Conalty, Kinolty), Morgan, Rafferty, McPolin (All Co Down, Ireland) Bowman, Hooper(Yorkshire)

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Re: Kidd families
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 31 July 18 13:08 BST (UK) »
Did your grandfather marry your grandmother? You could work backwards from this
There are a few other Thomas Kidd marriages - but this one looks the most likely

(Note Marriages are only available up to 1943 (75 years ago)

There is a marriage between Thomas Kidd and Edith Bryans

M/1940/V1/1523/6/19 Thomas Kidd Bryans 17th September 1940 Fermanagh
M/1940/V1/1523/6/19 Edith Bryans Kidd 17th September 1940 Fermanagh

The full details are available on GRONI online for about £3 and should includes the fathers name and occupation for both bride and groom
McClean, Kelly, Murray, Higgins, McAnulty (McNulty, Conalty, Kinolty), Morgan, Rafferty, McPolin (All Co Down, Ireland) Bowman, Hooper(Yorkshire)

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Re: Kidd families
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 31 July 18 13:14 BST (UK) »
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Kidd families
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 31 July 18 13:22 BST (UK) »
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Kidd families
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 31 July 18 14:12 BST (UK) »
Potential red herring, but, only because of the birth year and mention of Brooklyn, New York in first post, throwing it on here for further checking.

SSDI has an entry:

Age   72
Given Name   Harriet
Surname   Franklin
Birth Date   31 Dec 1920
State   Illinois
Last Place of Residence   Brooklyn, Kings, New York
Previous Residence Postal Code   11201
Event Date   25 Feb 1992

(eg.  "State   Illinois" -  perhaps someone more familiar with the SSDI can advise what this section of entry refers to - I think it is which state originally issued the SS number)
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