Hi
What about just asking the man who goes by the name the English man, he is dna matched to me and as the Baileys in his tree, you said you have spoken to him before, do you want me to write to him, i will do that for you if it would be of help, i am not knowledgeable at all on the peoples you write about, i am learning much though and taking everything in, well i am trying to, i have about four male Gardiners as dna matches or maybe five i forgot but they are one of those old Family's by the look of their Family history and just like the Scamps they hold the Indian dna between them, in my mind it is clear that those two Family's are from the old Romany Peoples who first landed long ago, how and where i do not know but through me looking at my own dna matches which go well into the hundreds, well again i can plainly see the Gardiners and Scamps possess old Romany Gipsy genes in this day, i just found another Scamp match last night, She does not give much away but a few photos that link her to the Gipsy's and the Indian dna and many many shared dna matches with lots of the Old Names, She comes out of the Loves and Scamps Family's from down that South way,
i think Her Mother was Mary Scamp 1937–1997 Dartford, Kent r.i.p She is a Cousin match through shared dna with me in the 4th to sixth range, i do not know why though, or evan a maybe, not a clue of any of this information, its hard for me to help you for i do not know of any of these names yet i seem to have strong links from the old times with the descendants of the old Gipsy's from the South, the Lee Family i have strong old links to with born and bred Lees Male and Females to, from the South coast right through Wales to, why though, the Stanley's are a big match to but the Young's are many like the Lees, i wonder who are or who his the old Ancestor who gave me all these dna matches to the old Gipsy's in this day, you think you are looking for something and it is a struggle for you, well look at me, i don't evan have a clue about my own Ancestry regarding my dna Cousin matches, i understand about the names i know from up my way but the South and more America then the Hearnes from Wales and the greatest of them the mighty Herons from the Northern lands, you have got to admit all this is a mystery that will never be solved, never, did you ever hear of them Jewell's to i think i spelled the name right, there famous in the old writings i may have spelt that name wrong but i dna match to them to, and now last night to a Swedish Family with not a drop of my British way ancestry they have now matched to me, they all play the accordion from long years, well i thought i would look through their Family photos and there was an old Relation with is name printed so i looked up his name on the internet and His old Family was from the old Romany that went to Sweden there is just a flicker of the South Asian left in them that Ancestry gives through their tests the rest from those cold lands not a drop of those lands are in me but i share old dna with these accordion players, i will show you a link to the oldest of them maybe tomorrow, i will keep trying to see things for you, i do read your posts and try and find things but i can not write of what i have not found, but i will try.
michael
