William Common Born abt 1853 Monkwearmouth, Sunderland, Durham

[Ruskie]

The birth is on freebmd with those reference numbers.

[Raybistre]

There is a procedure on the GRO website for notifying any perceived errors. They will then look into it. I have notified about 15 errors, some are omissions, some mis-transcribed. About 5 still outstanding due to lockdown.
2 errors I have had to notify twice as the first time they said nothing wrong. One still outstanding, the one that was eventually corrected was 2 births of the same name in the same place, same qtr, same year, the GRO index only had one entry.
Ray

[Andrew Tarr]

Here's a snip from the printed index

Interestingly the adjacent record for St Columb is not on the new GRO index either.  Seems some records have been skipped ?
Correction - it was recorded.  I'll keep looking.

The only male Commons births I have found in Sunderland 1850-1868 are a pair of twins (one of them a William) in 1862 March, MMN = Mason.  A small number for any family then?  FreeBMD finds four, including William 1853.

Presumably the staff trying to provide your certificate are stumped by their own index, rather than accepting the ref. you have supplied.

[Girl Guide]

Just out of curiosity I checked the names listed on Freebmd for that particular reference in the GRO website.

Of the 11 names listed two are not on the GRO website, William Commons and Catherine Jane Clark. 

[jonwarrn]

Should only be 10 names.
One is
ATKINSON, WILLIAM       
Mother's Maiden Surname: — 
GRO Reference: 1853  D Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 311

[jonwarrn]

By the way, welcome to Rootschat!
John

[Grandies]

There is a procedure on the GRO website for notifying any perceived errors. They will then look into it. I have notified about 15 errors, some are omissions, some mis-transcribed.

Thanks for all of these responses. So quick! I need  to go through each one properly, but regarding the procedure for notifying errors, I did report this omission to GRO in 2018. Their response was below,

Report Type:   Missing entry in the birth index       Date Submitted:   27 Jul 2018 10:46
Name:   William Commons       Mother's Maiden Surname:   
Details:   The birth entry is shown in the England and Wales Civil registration birth index, yet no matching entries are found when I search in the GRO index
Current Status:   Investigated – No amendment required       GRO Index Reference:   1853 D Sunderland 10a 311
GRO Comments:   Indexed data is correct.

I am interested to learn how to see all entries on the relevant volume and page.
How do I do that ?
Once again, thanks for looking everyone.
Eileen

[jonwarrn]

Local indexes for Sunderland here
https://www.sunderland.gov.uk/article/12356/Copies-of-birth-death-and-marriage-certificates

No birth indexed for William Commons?
Search is by decade, so, yes, lots of William Atkinsons
We can pin down the one in Dec qtr 1853, GRO ref 10a 311
ATKINSON   William    
Year 1853   
Index Number M19/78

By cross-ref with other names on page 311, i.e. Isabella Dick, 1853, ref  M19/76
or John Surtees Manson, 1853, M19/79   

No Catherine Jane Clark though.
Could William Atkinson and William Commons be the same person? Illegitimate but father named on certificate perhaps?

[Tickettyboo]

I tried the certificate search on Sunderland Registrars site, births 1851-60 Searched for surnames starting with COM

no William coming up in the search with a surname that starts with COM during 1851-860,

no registration showing for COM* (with any forename) in 1853

I would have tried searching with just a forename, to see what turned up but at least a partial entry in the surname field is mandatory

Unsure if that means its been missed from the Registrars online database or the entry in the old printed GRO index is an error.



Boo