William Common Born abt 1853 Monkwearmouth, Sunderland, Durham

[Grandies]

Thanks for the ideas.
So many variations on the Common name, and many Henzell middle names too!
Back to my William. I found several possible births in 1853, but none so far name the father as William, as mentioned in my record of his marriage.
I may need to apply for the marriage certificate to confirm that detail.
But for now, I will explore all the information, and ideas you have given me above.
He is being very difficult!
Thanks for the help.
Eileen

[Kay99]

I must admit that William Muirhead  looks a good possibility - born pre the parents marriage and following Robert Muirhead's profession.   

I can't see a birth for him with the surname Muirhead and children who are illegitimate can invent a father with the same christian name that they have 

Kay

[Grandies]

I am working my way through the possibilities you have suggested John and Kay. Thank you.
What do people mean when they refer to the old index and new index in FreeBMD?
If William was illegitimate and “invented “ a father William ( who he said was a boilersmith), this would be recorded on his marriage certificate too?
He did use the Henzell middle name for one of his children, so it seems that he was from the line you discovered Kay. And possibly an illegitimate child of Joseph Henzell Commons(1805) daughter, as you have suggested John.
I will work my way through the census records for those years and let you know if I make any discoveries.
It’s a tangled web and made more difficult by the birth registration apparently being corrupted.
Keeps me busy. Thanks again,
Eileen.

[jonwarrn]

Hi
The new index is those of births and deaths that the GRO added to their website not so long ago.
Births 1837-1917, including the mother's maiden name pre 1911 (not given in the original index)
Deaths 1837-1957, gives age on death, including pre 1866
Both indexes give full names, no initials.
You can order pdf copies for £6, and save a third of the cost of purchasing a certificate (has the same info)
Marriages haven't been done, sadly.

The original indexes for births, marriages and deaths are found, as you say, on FreeBMD, FamilySearch, and the two main pay sites. On FreeBMD and the pay sites you can see scans of the images to check those transcribed references!
John

[Grandies]

That’s good to know John. Will be very helpful to pin people down!
I am still up to my eyes in Common / Henzell relatives.
I am sure it will all be clear, one day!
Thanks again,
Eileen

[Grandies]

Hello all. I am stumped with this one. I have been seeking to distinguish “my” William Common(s) from another. This one says he was born in Bishopwearmouth, near Sunderland in County Durham, as was.
To get info of his father, I ordered his birth certificate.  However GRO have issued me a refund, and say they have no record of him at the reference given.
I have confirmed the details vis Ancestry search, and rechecked via Free BMD and Family Search websites. Where do I go from here? Anyone struck this before?
Will be happy for any assistance.
Eileen
Below is the copy from Family Search site.

Name: William Commons
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year: 1853
Registration District: Sunderland
County: Durham
Event Place: Sunderland, Durham, England
Volume: 10A
Page: 311
Affiliate Line Number: 24


Citing this Record
"England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2NCW-LBR : 1 October 2014), William Commons, 1853; from "England & Wales Births, 1837-2006," database, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : 2012); citing Birth Registration, Sunderland, Durham, England, citing General Register Office, Southport, England.

[KGarrad]

The GRO Indexes website has no mention of William Commons in 1853?

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

[KGarrad]

I downloaded the relevant page from FreeBMD.
This type-written index page definitely shows William Commons at the reference you have given.

I would write back to GRO, with a copy of that page, and ask them to look again.

The GRO Indexes website re-transcribed all certificate info; so maybe a transcription error?

[ShaunJ]

Here's a snip from the printed index