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Re: William Common Born abt 1853 Monkwearmouth, Sunderland, Durham
« Reply #9 on: Friday 27 July 18 15:50 BST (UK) »
Found all the page 311 names on the Sunderland site (except of course William Commons, as Stan said)
William Atkinson has the index ref M19/78   
The index range is from Catherine (Catharine) Jane Clark, M19/72, to James Carragher, M19/81

Jane Childs, indexed by the GRO in Dec 53 on (10a) 312, has the Sunderland ref M19/82
And for the previous page, 310 - this is interesting - John Black in the old GRO index (typed version) appears as Jane Black (female) on the new index, and also on the Sunderland version. In the local indexes Jane's ref is M19/71.

So that at least confirms the ten names on 311, including William Atkinson. But was he also indexed by the GRO as Commons?         

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Re: William Common Born abt 1853 Monkwearmouth, Sunderland, Durham
« Reply #10 on: Friday 27 July 18 16:40 BST (UK) »
I see son William born 1879 had the middle name Wilson, which was his mother's maiden surname.

Clutching at straws......do you know why son Joseph born in 1881 had the middle name Henzell?
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Re: William Common Born abt 1853 Monkwearmouth, Sunderland, Durham
« Reply #11 on: Friday 27 July 18 17:14 BST (UK) »
I see son William born 1879 had the middle name Wilson, which was his mother's maiden surname.

Clutching at straws......do you know why son Joseph born in 1881 had the middle name Henzell?

Interesting -   Probably unrelated but there is a tree on Anc that starts with the marriage of a Thomas Common(s) to Margaret Henzell in Newcastle in 1799 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N654-C5Q   Their children appear to be
Jane Henzell Commons b 1799  Mary Commons b 1802, Martha Henzell Commons b 1803 and Joseph Henzell Commons b 1805

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Re: William Common Born abt 1853 Monkwearmouth, Sunderland, Durham
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 28 July 18 00:36 BST (UK) »
Lovely information. Thank you all. Seems like I have to wait for a response from the GRO before I can do anything further about his birth certificate.
I was intrigued with the “Henzell” middle name and have tried looking for a Henzell, Common marriage.
Thank you Jen and Kay for giving me another avenue to check out. If I start with that 1799 marriage and try following it down. Gives me something to be exploring while I wait.
Very grateful for all the input.
Thanks,
Eileen
Tait, Scullion, Taaffe


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Re: William Common Born abt 1853 Monkwearmouth, Sunderland, Durham
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 28 July 18 00:58 BST (UK) »
Just a quick extra question please. I notice that some have mentioned viewing the names on the page where William Common(s) birth is / should be registered.
The record I have is the A-Z record of the Dec quarter 1853.
How do I get to view the individual page names,  please?
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Re: William Common Born abt 1853 Monkwearmouth, Sunderland, Durham
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 28 July 18 05:36 BST (UK) »
To view the 11 names with the same ref on FreeBMD search with no name with the District Sunderland  Dec Qtr 1853 Vol 10a Page 311 and 11 names should result

I have been fiddling with the  descendants of Joseph Henzill Commons b1805 and to help following them I think the surname varies between Cummins/Cummings/Commons etc

I think this is the family in 1841 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQBC-524 with another Joseph Henzill Commons b 1837 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N1JM-ZQC

By 1881 I think this is the son Joseph's family  included William b 1862 Sunderland who was a glass maker https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q271-FX1T I think Joseph has been missed because he is on the previous page -Joseph Cummings b 1836 Gateshead - Married - Mariner   

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Re: William Common Born abt 1853 Monkwearmouth, Sunderland, Durham
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 28 July 18 08:51 BST (UK) »
What about William Muirhead?
In 1871 in Newcastle he is 17 years old, born Sunderland, son of son of Robert and Mary A.
Robert Muirhead a Flint glass maker.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5BX-6Y7

Marriage of Robert Muirhead and Mary Ann Common (father Joseph) in Newcastle in 1854
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NFJ9-9P3

So Mary Ann would be the sister of Joseph Henzell Commons born 1837?
Is there any further sign of William Muirhead after 1871? Don't think there is a birth registration.
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Re: William Common Born abt 1853 Monkwearmouth, Sunderland, Durham
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 28 July 18 09:21 BST (UK) »
Taking the family Kay found in 1841 on to the next census in Gateshead.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGVQ-4F8

Youngest child there is Margaret, age 1, but Joseph and Sarah already had a daughter of that name
Is this the birth reg of the younger Margaret, with another dash for mother's maiden name?
COMMONS, MARGARET       
mother -     
GRO Reference: 1849  D Quarter in GATESHEAD UNION  Volume 24  Page 154

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Re: William Common Born abt 1853 Monkwearmouth, Sunderland, Durham
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 28 July 18 11:27 BST (UK) »
What about William Muirhead?

They are in Sunderland in the 1861 census
Robert is found on piece 3767 folio 59 page 13
Mary A, 25, William, 7, Joseph 4, and Isabella, 2, are page 14

Transcribed Morehead on findmypast, Murehead on ancestry
Robert a Flint Glass Maker