brick wall with Catherine McArthur

[sharonsteinberg47]

I am sorry you have lost me completely. christopher Donnelly went to canberra and married mary mcdonald and they had a bunch of children she died in bowral in 1918, he died in Queanbeyan in 1911....how does that death notice prove that that mary makin was not born in nSW? I think perhaps we will leave it at that christopher and mary parted she married martin wood and he married mary macdonald. I do not understand what that has to do with catherine mcarthur. goodbye and once again thanks for you interest.

[majm]

Tidying up desk, overlooked posting this earlier.
Grevilles 1872 PO Directory GOULBURN
Mary DONNELLY, householder, Bourke St, Goulburn
http://www.family.joint.net.au/index.php?mid=1&cid=11

She was still listed in that directory in 1875, at Bourke St.   

JM

[majm]

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/99019433 10 Jan 1918 Goulburn Evening Penny. 

I am sure you will agree that this cutting reads:

QUEANBEYAN.
At Bowral hospital on January 3 there died another of the pioneers of the Queanbeyan district, Mrs Mary Donnelly, widow of the late Christophor Donnelly, of Canberra.

Deceased was born in Inverness, Scotland, in 1845, and came to this State with her parents at the age of nine years. She had resided in Queanbeyan district ever since.

Mr. Donnelly, of Queanbeyan, is a son of deceased, and Mrs. R. Robinson, also of Queanbeyan, is a
daughter.

So that Mary arrived in Australia with her parents at age 9.   So she arrived c1854.   So her mum was not Catherine McARTHUR who was married in NSW in 1844 and is person you mention in your topic heading.

JM 

[sharonsteinberg47]

that is mary mcdonald who is the 2nd wife of christopher donnelly...NOT my great great grandmother Mary Makin....Mary Mcdonald has nothing whatever to do with me. I think you have gone off piste. Mary makin is who I am descended from NOT mary mcdonald

[majm]

that is mary mcdonald who is the 2nd wife of christopher donnelly...NOT my great great grandmother Mary Makin....Mary Mcdonald has nothing whatever to do with me. I think you have gone off piste. Mary makin is who I am descended from NOT mary mcdonald

Without the info on the parish registers for those marriages, it is not possible for you to have confidence that there was only one Christopher DONNELLY marrying twice , the second time while his first wife was still alive and living in the same general area of the same colony.  Same with Mary MARKIN ... you need the primary sources.

From the dc for the chap who died in 1911, how many marriages, and name of spouse/s and his age at marriage, and children of each marriage...  these are significant questions for you to consider.

JM

[majm]

There’s an online tree with around 53,400 names… 

http://www.bellsite.id.au/Site/family_trees.html

http://www.bellsite.id.au/gdbtree/HTMLFiles/HTMLFiles_77/P42996.html
http://www.bellsite.id.au/gdbtree/HTMLFiles/HTMLFiles_02/P42997.html
http://www.bellsite.id.au/gdbtree/HTMLFiles/HTMLFiles_106/P27678.html

It seems that someone has informed the tree owner that Mary MAKIN died giving birth to their Great Grandfather, Albert George DONNELLY …. The reference shows the source as someone with similar name to our OP, and messages were dated 27 August 2015. 

ADD
Mention of William DONNELLY at Parramatta.

I have been given some speculative info which I share.   

Please consider a check of the 1825 General Muster Parramatta District ... two chaps named as William DONNELLY.  One with a wife as Esther CREW and the other with a wife as Elizabeth CROOK, both having children in same year/s as each other. 

Perhaps one of lasses had a son named after the child’s dad ...who then in the 1840s had a son named Christopher,  in the Parramatta district (which at that time was extensive, right along the River on the northern side, to meet St Leonards district) etc ... 

Many of the births in NSW prior to civil registration simply did NOT result in a baptism that was re-transmitted to the NSW Chaplains.  There's many children who were not baptised.  So it is very possible, likely even that there's two chaps called Christopher DONNELLY in the large area from say Young/Grenfell south to the Murray river and across from say Braidwood to west of Canberra.   


JM

[sharonsteinberg47]

Yes that is what I said, i used to think that mary died giving birth to Albert....and christopher went off to Canberra and married Mary mcdonald. then I realised that she was the mary donelly who married martinjwood and brought up albert george. Once I saw that her sister elizabeth had witnessed her wedding to martin Wood the jig was up so to speak.

[sharonsteinberg47]

that was a reply to catheirne makins marriage in 1867 to james Dallas..I would like to delete all of it however I have no idea how to do it.

[sharonsteinberg47]

oh no that was the marriage of mary mcdonald and christopher donnelly in 1867...when you quoted mary mcdonald as saying they married in 1860....its immaterial now anyway