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Re: brick wall with Catherine McArthur
« Reply #36 on: Wednesday 18 July 18 08:16 BST (UK) »
yes of course but when dealing with illiterate people they do not spell their names they are at the mercy of whoever is writing it down....so they decide how it is spelt.

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Re: brick wall with Catherine McArthur
« Reply #37 on: Wednesday 18 July 18 08:23 BST (UK) »
even literacy was not enough.  If registering a birth, until end of WWI, it was all done on verbal info for NSW, so clerk on one side of high and wide counter with huge ledger book facing the clerk, not the informant.  Say mother, even with full literacy, in a deputy registrar's office, often the admin office of the local court house where clerk was part timer, usually part of CPS staff, ... mother registering second, or third or later baby, so has all the kids at her side, and wants to present new baby etc ... gives the info, clerk records it, and then swings book around, blotting paper at hand, covering much of the info already recorded and says "mark here"... so she puts an X there, ... clerk doesn't say 'sign here' so she doesn't use her signature... and then in 21st century we presume she was illiterate...

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Re: brick wall with Catherine McArthur
« Reply #38 on: Wednesday 18 July 18 08:45 BST (UK) »
These are the marriages identified here?

1851/1844 V18441851 76     MCARTHUR Catherine  m.  MAKIN James  @  PJ

2052/1864                           MAKIN Mary  m. DONELLY  Christopher  @  Goulburn

3587/1865                           MACCUM Elizabeth  m.  MOORE John  @ Yass

2037/1867                           MAKIN Catherine  m.  DALLAS James     @ Goulburn

3802/1870                           DONELLY Mary  m.  WOOD Martin    @ Yass


For each certificate that you have, can you please list all the information on each certificate.

2037 / 1867.......where Elizabeth names her mother Catherine WEST......this would be her mother's maiden name.

And 1844 marriage is possibly widowed Catherine McARTHUR nee WEST marrying James MAKIN?




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Re: brick wall with Catherine McArthur
« Reply #39 on: Wednesday 18 July 18 10:41 BST (UK) »
Yes, I have similar list too, and similar questions too... smallest details should not be overlooked.

I wonder if the chap bitten by the snake survived? https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/63239859 Empire 21 Nov 1865, seems to say so, but it was printed in Sydney...
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/100828409 Goulburn H & C 18 Oct 1865 concern he may not survive and it was local news.

A skim of NSW BDM births suggests no children for Christopher and Mary... DONELLY or DONNELLY 1864 - 1870

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Re: brick wall with Catherine McArthur
« Reply #40 on: Wednesday 18 July 18 11:28 BST (UK) »
There’s a Catherine,  24 December 1826, baptism recorded at St Marys RC, Sydney, daughter of Benjamin WEST late of the 48th regiment. Sponsors Thomas and Mary ASHTON...  and by 1828, Catherine West aged 2, Protestant, in household of Benjamin WEST, Clarence St, Sydney... 
Thomas ASHTON was Colour Sergeant for 48th Regiment. 
Benjamin & Biddy WEST recorded as parents in St Philips C of E register (ie NSW Chaplains Register for all clergy of various denominations)   John, their son, born 5 May 1819, baptised 16 May 1819.
Benjamin and Bridget WEST, parents for Benjamin born 10 Jan 1825, baptised 30 Jan 1825, St Philips register
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Here’s another Catherine WEST ... SEE the Col Sec Papers... Index has her in family arriving 1821, per Westmoreland and victualled from Windsor stores for six months.
General Muster Sept 1825  Catherine WEST, daughter of Thomas WEST, per Westmoreland 1821 came free, at Bathurst district ...
1828 Census  Catherine WEST, per Westmoreland 1821, aged 8, in household of Thomas WEST, Muff Farm, Bathurst.
Note, further info available for Thomas WEST who came free per Westmoreland, with wife, 2 sons, 6 daughters. 
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There's other possible candidates for the bride in the 1844 m.c.

BUT I am concerned that it will be speculative until further info can be gleaned from those m.c.s... and the parish registers.

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Re: brick wall with Catherine McArthur
« Reply #41 on: Wednesday 18 July 18 13:31 BST (UK) »
well I am here so I guess there was a child...albert George Donnelly was my great grandfather. and his death states his father was christopher donnelly.

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Re: brick wall with Catherine McArthur
« Reply #42 on: Wednesday 18 July 18 13:35 BST (UK) »
The problem is the Gaol at Goulburn stated that Catherine West was really catherine wilkinson...from Limerick which I would assume is an old plantation name...however I am not sure about limerick being part of the plantation area.

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Re: brick wall with Catherine McArthur
« Reply #43 on: Wednesday 18 July 18 13:38 BST (UK) »
This couple are your great great grandparents?

2052/1864  MAKIN Mary  m. DONELLY  Christopher  @  Goulburn

Using BDM NSW index I am not seeing any children born to this couple.

Your DONNELLY great grandparent.....what name please, and when and where was this person marry....live...die.....

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Re: brick wall with Catherine McArthur
« Reply #44 on: Wednesday 18 July 18 13:39 BST (UK) »
Albert George donnelly 1938 at Boorowa
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