Walter Collins

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Marriages Sep 1838   
ALLASON Jane    Sunderland    24/200    
COLLINS    Robert    Sunderland    24/00

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Marriage
COLLINS Robert Single  Father Walter COLLINS
ALLASON Jane  Single  Father Robert ALLASON
9 Aug 1838 Bishop-Wearmouth, Durham, England
FHL Film Number    1514548

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1841 Census HO107/309/4
Living at Bishop Wearmouth South, Durham
COLLINS Robert   29 years  Clerk   Not born county
COLLINS Jane   30 years    Born County
COLLINS Robert 1     Born County
ALDERTON Ellen  20   Female servant  Not born county

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[Freya Ellingsen]

1841 Census HO107/309/4
Living at Bishop Wearmouth South, Durham
COLLINS Robert   29 years  Clerk   Not born county
COLLINS Jane   30 years    Born County
COLLINS Robert 1     Born County
ALDERTON Ellen  20   Female servant  Not born county

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So thanks Cando! my original thoughts were Walters parents may of been part of the Irish invasion during the 30's Industrial revolution or later the Famine.. So I presume not born in county means not born in Durham

[wivenhoe]

BDM QLD births
1905 B10624 COLLINS Annie Margaret Ellen  parents Thomas Hedley / Elizabeth Hopper
1907 B15182 COLLINS Allison James Robert  parents Thomas Hedley / Elizabeth Annie Hopper
1910 B22344 COLLINS Edward Bertram         parents Thomas Hedley / Elizabeth Annie Hopper
1911 B26934 COLLINS John Gordon              parents Thomas Hedley / Elizabeth Annie Hopper

BDM QLD death
1957 B22724 COLLINS Thomas Hedley parents  Walter Allison  / Mary Bidduff

[cando]

Not born county means just that.

I think the 1861 census has been mistranscribed as this appears to be the same family.

1851 Census  HO107/2402/39/13
Living at Brunswick Terrace, Gateshead
BECKETT Thomas Head Married  36 years  Railway Agent  Born Durham, Durham
BECKETT Mary Ann  Dau 9 years   Born Durham, Durham
BECKETT Isabell  Dau 4 years     Born Gateshead, Durham
COLLINS Elizabeth Sister in law  Unmarried 34  Born Durham, Durham
COLLINS Robert Nephew 10  Born Durham, Durham
COLLINS Walter Nephew 9    Born Sunderland Durham
DIMLEBY David  Visitor  Unmarried 32 years  Railway Clerk  Born York, Beverley

Marriages Dec 1840   
BECKETT    Thomas    Newcastle    25/358    
COLLINS    Isabell         Newcastle  25/358

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Edit to add marriage

[Freya Ellingsen]

Cando,
  Would the marriage cert of Robert Collins and Jane ALLASON give information of where Robert was born?  (Full cert)

[Freya Ellingsen]

Possibly the Brunswick reference was sourced from this record.  I note that Walter's occupation on the birth certificates for his two children in Tasmania was house painter and painter.

COLLINS Walter
Unemployed
Date 1892
Place East Brunswick, Victoria
Status Married
Occupation Painter.
Source: Index to the Register of unemployed tradesmen and labourers.
Public Record Office Victoria: VPRS 1053/P0 Units 1-3.  Unit 2 Pge 121
Comment No of children 2

Cando

It does state married here on register although his divorce from Rebecca Biddulph was given in 1879
  could the Louisa in 1903 Australian Electoral Roll be a new wife?

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Cando,
  Would the marriage cert of Robert Collins and Jane ALLASON give information of where Robert was born?  (Full cert)

English marriage certificates are scant on information.  Usually for the groom - his name, age [full or minor], condition [marital status] occupation, marital status, usual residence, father's name and occupation.

This MAY be his father in 1841
Living at St Nicholas, Durham
COLLINS Walter  66 years   Bricklayer   Not born County
COLLINS Isabell  65 years      Born County
COLLINS Elizabeth  20   Born County

You would need to purchase Robert's marriage certificate from GRO to find his father's occupation.
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/most_customers_want_to_know.asp#FamilyHistory

I think you need to start your research with Walter's 1907 death certificate from Vic bdm.


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