Henry Webster and Agnes(s) Jackson

[conygar]

I am hoping that someone may be researching this couple who lived in Kilbarchan.  Both were born in the early 1820s and they married in 1842.  Using Ancestry and Find My Past for transcriptons of 1851, 1871, 1881, 1891 census records I have slowly been adding family.  I also had the 1861 image from Scotland's People and now have the 1901 image from Scotland's People.

I was suspicious about the two younger daughters listed on the 1881 and 1891 census as it made Agness rather old to be having children.  The 1901 census image shows them as granddaughters!

What I have yet to work out is which of the elder children of Henry and Agness is the parent.  I have a feeling it might either be Isabelle born 1843 who is not with them after 1861, or William born 1851 who is not with them after the 1871 census.  Daughter Agness born 1847  and son Robert born 1856 stay at home, single, but it could just as likely be them.

Henry's wife, Agness, is my g g aunt.  Can anyone help me shed light on this family please.

Thank you
Liz

[MonicaL]

Hi Liz

From what you have, this is the family isn't it in 1881 in Kilbarchan where the family were based:

Henry Webster 61
Agnes Webster 59
Agnes Webster 34
Robert Webster 24
Jeanie Webster 21
John Webster 18
James Webster 13
Jane Webster 9
Janet Webster 3

How about this entry for Jane, aged 9

Jane Pinkerton Webster
Born 14 Dec 1871
Birthplace    KILBARCHAN,RENFREW,SCOTLAND
Mother's Name Agnes Webster
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQ92-TXJ

Monica

[ev]

SP has a birth for a Janet Webster 1877 Kilbarchan Renfrew.

William Webster(b.1851) married(in 1874) Agnes Naismith ?
1881 Census(LDS transcription).
6 Patrick St , West Greenock , Renfrew.
Wm Webster 30 porter on railway b. Kilbarchan Renfrew
Agnes Webster 32 wife b. Tranent Edinburgh
Agnes Webster 6 daur b. Kilbarchan Renfrew
Henry Webster 4 son b.        "              "
Willm Webster 3 son b.         "              "
Robert Webster 1 son b. Greenock Renfrew


ev

[conygar]

Thank you Monica, yes that is the family and I believe is most likely the birth as they were Kilbarchan people.  Pinkerton ..... must look and see if there are any Pinkerton's in that area.  I have tried searching for a paternity decree but couldn't find one.

Now to see if I can find the younger Janet.

Thanks for your help.

[conygar]

Thank you ev, that could be the answer for Janet.

I assumed (I know, I shouldn't have done, smack hands) that both children were from the same mother.

Thank you so much for your help

[carolineasb]

Pinkerton is a relatively common name in the West Renfrewshire area!

If there was any Decree of Declarator of Parentage granted by the Court, the original Birth Certificate of the child should have a stamp/annotation at the side stating that there is an RCE attached to the birth entry. It's always best to have a look at original entries of birth on Scotland's People, as you never know what information you may find that you will not find on a transcription!

[conygar]

Thank you carolineasb

I knew about Paternity Decrees and had searched for one of those but not heard about   Decree of Declarator of Parentage which sent me scurrying off to google it.  It appears to be much later than I am looking for but in google results it threw up some very interesting pages from the University of Glasgow that were well worth reading, so thank you.

https://www.gla.ac.uk/schools/socialpolitical/research/economicsocialhistory/historymedicine/scottishwayofbirthanddeath/birth/


https://www.gla.ac.uk/schools/socialpolitical/research/economicsocialhistory/historymedicine/scottishwayofbirthanddeath/marriage/

[carolineasb]

Sorry, perhaps I just phrased it a different way

If Jane was born in 1871, that was after Statutory Registration began and so any Decree of Court should be stamped or annotated on the entry of her birth.