When you can't quite prove two people are one and the same...

[Malcolm33]

Henry Thompson died 26 January 1891 at 68 Morton Street, South Shields, Administration of his estate was granted to Jane.  This may be his death:
THOMSON, HENRY aged 74  GRO Ref: 1891  M Quarter in SOUTH SHIELDS  Volume 10A  Page 431

Ah so they had his name wrong in the register.  That explains it.   I only found these in the 1891 March Quarter:
Deaths Mar 1891
Thompson    Henry    71    Blofield    4b   156
Thompson    Henry    79    Smallburgh    4b   38    
Thompson    Henry    0    Newcastle T.    10b   112    
Thompson    Henry    75    Morpeth    10b   227    
Thompson    Henry    78    Kingston    2a   235    
Thompson    Henry    75    St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a   372    
Thompson    Henry    17    Birmingham    6d   122    
Thompson    Henry    32    Gloucester    6a   229    
Thompson    Henry    14    Halifax    9a   345    
Thompson    Henry    82    Burnley    8e   183    
Thompson    Henry    10    Hitchin    3a   319    
Thompson    Henry    51    Warrington    8c   135   
Thompson    Henry Davison    5 Salford    8d   52    
Thompson    Henry John    4 Edmonton    3a   215

[Jomot]

18:02 UPDATE:  I THINK I can accept that the Jane Adamson of Tudhoe MIGHT NOT be our one.  The only thing that makes me have doubts is the Edward Adamson, Engineer statement on her marriage to Henry Thompson.  But would she or the registrar say 'Edward Adamson' when he was really Edwin Potter?  I've never heard of Edwin being an affectionate form of Edward.  Or vice versa.

I still think the GRO marriage copy looks like Edward has been written in later - I take it you haven't heard back from Tyne & Wear Archives about the original yet?  Info on charges, contact address etc here: https://twarchives.org.uk/collection/copying

If she was illegitimate, as we believe, then it wouldn't be at all unusual to give her step-father's forename & occupation rather than say 'I don't know'.  She may have said 'Adamson' or it may have been assumed, that's something we'll never know.   

I'm personally not convinced of any family connection between Jane Adamson/Thompson/Leggett and John Adamson Jenkinson, but I'll be happy if I'm proved wrong.

[Mart 'n' Al]

Malcolm, I had not noticed the wrong spelling.  Very observant.

Jomot, I have just had an email from the T&W archives.  They do not hold the records for that church.  They have referred me to the local registrar, which I am following up.

What about looking at it from a different viewpoint?  What happened to Jane Adamson who was living with the Potters in Middlesbrough?  Ruling her out that way would help.  I can't find anything.

Martin

[River Tyne Lass]

Hi Martin,

I have just come across this post so I am not quite up to speed with all the info.  However, I just want to say that I live on Tyneside and if I can be of any help in any way I will - just let me know. 

I can see straight off that when I get time I should be able to find Henry's Preston Cemetery burial location on microfilm which is held at the library.  Do you know if there is a grave stone?  If so I could look for this as at the cemetery and let you know what this says and take a photo   Just say if I you need help and when I get time in between work and family commitments I will help.

Possibly email South Shields library re: Church if they have record I could go and look up.

[Mart 'n' Al]

RTL, thank you for your help and interest.  Basically I am trying to find out about the early life of Jane Adamson who married Henry Thompson.  She is my Great Grandmother.  She had a child at 29 with 70-year old Henry, who then died the following year.  Jane then had six children children with George Leggett.  On 1891,01 and 11 censuses she appears to come from Durham, Durham, or Durham City.

A Jane Adamson of the right age was born in Tudhoe in 1860, recorded on 1861 and 1871 censuses.  1881 lists a Jane but with slight age discrepancy.  Tudhoe Jane was raised by Ann Adamson, who married Edwin Potter, who may or may not be the father, a blacksmith from Tudhoe. He later described himself as Engineer.  On Jane's marr cert to Henry her father is listed as Edward Adamson, Engineer.  But we differ in views as to whether it was the same man.  I am neutral. 

To sum up, I am now only interested in the EARLY pree 1889 life of the Jane Adamson who married Henry Thompson and then lived with (no marriage record) George Leggett.  The early part of the thread deals with George.  We don't know why he was 'away from home' on the 1901 census (where was he?) or why he is living in Acclom St, Hartlepool with a friend in 1911, nor why he is named as deceased on his daughter's 1915 marr cert.  My view is that George and Jane had some sort of rift.  Jane's 6th son, my GF is named as Thomas William THOMPSON on his 1900/01 birth cert.

I want to connect or reject 1860 Tudhoe Jane to the one married to Henry Thompson and later with George Leggett.

I think that brings you up to date.

Martin

[Jomot]

Jomot, I have just had an email from the T&W archives.  They do not hold the records for that church.  They have referred me to the local registrar, which I am following up.

My apologies Martin, I've just looked again at the User Guide and see that an X is written alongside Queen Street Chapel, which means baptisms.  Must get my glasses checked!

[River Tyne Lass]

Hi Martin,

I could look at the A-Z files at the North Shields local studies at the end of next week.  You never know, there may be something in there.

This is a vast resource which holds information on Tyneside ancestors (people who lived here, not necessarily born here) which either the staff or descendants or other researchers have added to.  These folders often include all types of interesting stuff - info on hand written notes, family tree drawings, articles etc.

It is worth a try, I think.

If you need any other look up carried out which you think might help you with query, do let me know.  I will do my best to help you out in the Tyneside area.

[River Tyne Lass]

If the family you are looking for lived near Mile End road, South Shields any children may have attended St Stephen School, South Shields. 

Tyne and Wear Archives have the records so if this too may be of any help let me know. (admission registers/logs/ miscellaneous) I have searched these records before as some of my own ancestors lived and attended school there.   

http://www.margaret-hall-genealogy.com/page6.htm

Hopefully, the above link will take you to a great local website which has an easy use Tyne and Wear Archives User Guide which I 👍 like.

[Mart 'n' Al]

RTL, I am of course interested in anything concerning the children of Jane Adamson my great grandmother, but I just want to confirm that my main focus at the moment is trying to connect her with the Jane born in Tudhoe in 1860 or to disprove this connection. The fact that the Tudhoe girl was raised by her mother who subsequently married Edwin Potter, blacksmith, (which I think was synonymous with engineer in that part of the country) comma makes me think it is a strong likelihood that it is the same Jane, especially in view of the fact that she lists her father as Adamson and an engineer on her marriage certificate to Henry Thompson, but the fact that he is named as Edward rather than Edwin works against this theory. I've never found anything else about Edward Adamson, but Edwin Potter was a factory engineer in a chemical factory, possibly building on his background as a Colliery blacksmith but I might be putting two and two together and getting the wrong answer. Nor can I track the Jane Adamson who lived with the Potters in Middlesbrough.

Martin