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Re: Lawes - Annie Eliza from Basingstoke Hampshire UK
« Reply #9 on: Friday 01 June 18 10:39 BST (UK) »
If there wasn't a marriage then all the children are illegitimate not just the first one.

Have you got the actual birth certificate for the Eliza born in the workhouse? 

Does it give any more information on the mother and what birthplace does your Annie Eliza have on census? 
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Re: Lawes - Annie Eliza from Basingstoke Hampshire UK
« Reply #10 on: Friday 01 June 18 10:48 BST (UK) »
Was Susan Betts the daughter of James and Susan?

If so in 1871 she has a sister Elizabeth age 14.  Possible she was the mother and sister brought her up. 
Elizabeth marries but has no children. 

When was the next child to Stephen and Susan born?
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Re: Lawes - Annie Eliza from Basingstoke Hampshire UK
« Reply #11 on: Friday 01 June 18 12:03 BST (UK) »
After Annie is Sarah J born 1875, Alice S 1877, Rose C 1878, William S 1879, Charles H 1882, Susan E 1884, Beatrice M 1889.

1911 says 12 born, 11 living, 1 died.
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Southcott: Devon, China
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Re: Lawes - Annie Eliza from Basingstoke Hampshire UK
« Reply #12 on: Friday 01 June 18 12:43 BST (UK) »
If there wasn't a marriage then all the children are illegitimate not just the first one.

Have you got the actual birth certificate for the Eliza born in the workhouse? 

Does it give any more information on the mother and what birthplace does your Annie Eliza have on census?
Hi. Yes I have the Eliza birth certificate and it states Eliza as the mother and place as Basingstoke workhouse


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Re: Lawes - Annie Eliza from Basingstoke Hampshire UK
« Reply #13 on: Friday 01 June 18 12:43 BST (UK) »
If there wasn't a marriage then all the children are illegitimate not just the first one.

Have you got the actual birth certificate for the Eliza born in the workhouse? 

Does it give any more information on the mother and what birthplace does your Annie Eliza have on census?
Hi. Yes I have the Eliza birth certificate and it states Eliza as the mother and place as Basingstoke workhouse

Annie gives her place of birth as Basingstoke

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Re: Lawes - Annie Eliza from Basingstoke Hampshire UK
« Reply #14 on: Friday 01 June 18 12:45 BST (UK) »
After Annie is Sarah J born 1875, Alice S 1877, Rose C 1878, William S 1879, Charles H 1882, Susan E 1884, Beatrice M 1889.

1911 says 12 born, 11 living, 1 died.

Yes I have the "sibling" details. I'm currently researching with a descendant of Rose Caroline

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Re: Lawes - Annie Eliza from Basingstoke Hampshire UK
« Reply #15 on: Friday 01 June 18 12:47 BST (UK) »
Was Susan Betts the daughter of James and Susan?

If so in 1871 she has a sister Elizabeth age 14.  Possible she was the mother and sister brought her up. 
Elizabeth marries but has no children. 

When was the next child to Stephen and Susan born?

Yes that is her - daughter of James Betts and Susan. I believe the next child was Sarah Jane 1875 but I'll check my records

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Re: Lawes - Annie Eliza from Basingstoke Hampshire UK
« Reply #16 on: Friday 01 June 18 13:08 BST (UK) »
Do you have a birth certificate for any of the children born after Annie?  If so presumably the mother is stated as being Susan Lawes with maiden name being Betts.

On the birth cert you have for Eliza LAWS is there an address other than the workhouse one?  Hang on though, if this Eliza has been registered as LAWS then she can't be the child of Susan's sister Eliza as her surname ought to be BETTS.

However if Susan's sister Eliza knew the child was going to be brought up by Susan, then it may have been decided to register her with Susan's 'married' surname of LAWS/LAWES.

But where did the Annie name come from?

You could go round in circles with this!  ::)
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire