Author Topic: Finding relatives of missing airgunner William Robert Louth of Hayes Middlesex  (Read 15891 times)

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Re: Finding relatives of missing airgunner
« Reply #72 on: Tuesday 05 June 18 21:40 BST (UK) »
Possible births on GRO 1880-1927  for William Robert LOUTH (and variants)
birth Sep qtr 1902 Tynemouth vol 10b p246 LOUGH William Robert  mmn DIXON
birth Mar qtr 1912 Leicester vol 7a p321  LOWTH William Robert mmn MAYFIELD
birth Dec qtr 1913 W Bromwich vol 6b p1552 LOUTH William Robert mmn LAMBERT

(NOTE - FreeBMD has other births listed as William R - but these have been proved not to be William Robert by checking on GRO)

Possible death on FreeBMD 1900-1983  for William R LOUTH (and variants)
death Jun qtr 1941 Tynemouth vol 10b p378 LOUGH William R age 38

Possible marriages on FreeBMD for William R LOUTH (and variants)
marriage Sep qtr 1939 Leicester vol 7a p857 LOUTH William R & HUNTER Kathleen I
marriage Dec qtr 1944 Leicester vol 7a p684 LOWTH William R & LOWTH Faith W


If (as seems very likely) the birth date given by the 77 Squadron Association is not correct, the names above are worth looking at.

The 1941 death and 1944 marriage (if they match) would eliminate two out of the three names. 

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Re: Finding relatives of missing airgunner
« Reply #73 on: Tuesday 05 June 18 22:39 BST (UK) »

Possible marriages on FreeBMD for William R LOUTH (and variants)
marriage Sep qtr 1939 Leicester vol 7a p857 LOUTH William R & HUNTER Kathleen I

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Kathleen J? Louth married James McCaskell Sept Q 1947 Leicester 3a 1891.  So what happened to her first husband William R Louth?  Died in WW2?
I believe she was Kathleen Ivy Hunter, she is with her first husband William R Louth in 1939 in Leicester, she is listed as Ivy K Louth.
Robbins - Wolverhampton.
Spooner - Monmouthshire & Wolverhampton.
Warner & Loundes - Dudley/West Bromwich.
Dod(g)son - Heysham/Liverpool/Wolverhampton

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Re: Finding relatives of missing airgunner
« Reply #74 on: Tuesday 05 June 18 23:12 BST (UK) »
David, where did the information he was born or lived in Hayes come from?
Robbins - Wolverhampton.
Spooner - Monmouthshire & Wolverhampton.
Warner & Loundes - Dudley/West Bromwich.
Dod(g)son - Heysham/Liverpool/Wolverhampton

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Re: Finding relatives of missing airgunner
« Reply #75 on: Wednesday 06 June 18 00:31 BST (UK) »

Possible marriages on FreeBMD for William R LOUTH (and variants)
marriage Sep qtr 1939 Leicester vol 7a p857 LOUTH William R & HUNTER Kathleen I

Philip

Kathleen J? Louth married James McCaskell Sept Q 1947 Leicester 3a 1891.  So what happened to her first husband William R Louth?  Died in WW2?
I believe she was Kathleen Ivy Hunter, she is with her first husband William R Louth in 1939 in Leicester, she is listed as Ivy K Louth.

From what I found, I think William and Kathleen must have been divorced before 1944 (for William to marry Faith W), then in 1947 Kathleen married again.

anyway - as that William married (again) in 1944 he can't be our airman who died in 1943.

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Re: Finding relatives of missing airgunner
« Reply #76 on: Wednesday 06 June 18 04:10 BST (UK) »
David, where did the information he was born or lived in Hayes come from?

Also from 77 squadron association

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Re: Finding relatives of missing airgunner
« Reply #77 on: Wednesday 06 June 18 12:59 BST (UK) »

birth Dec qtr 1913 W Bromwich vol 6b p1552 LOUTH William Robert mmn LAMBERT

I've found a possible brother to this William, called Frederick Arthur LOUTH, also with mmn LAMBERT born in W Bromwich 1909.  I've traced his family and I think I've found his daughter still alive and with an email address!!! Watch this space...

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« Reply #78 on: Wednesday 06 June 18 14:53 BST (UK) »

birth Dec qtr 1913 W Bromwich vol 6b p1552 LOUTH William Robert mmn LAMBERT

I've found a possible brother to this William, called Frederick Arthur LOUTH, also with mmn LAMBERT born in W Bromwich 1909.  I've traced his family and I think I've found his daughter still alive and with an email address!!! Watch this space...

That is excellent news.

If this is the correct William Robert it saves a lot of research eliminating every LOUTH only baptised as William.

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Re: Finding relatives of missing airgunner
« Reply #79 on: Wednesday 06 June 18 16:48 BST (UK) »
Hannam, contacted 2 living relatives, no reply yet.

Just in case - I have found four siblings of Leon HANNAM on FreeBMD:

marriage Dec qtr 1919 Holborn vol 1b p1398 HANNAM Leon & MANNCOCK Margaret C E
1)  birth Dec qtr 1920 Islington vol1b p359 HANNAM Leon mmn MANNOCH
2)  birth Sep qtr 1922 Islington vol 1b p524 HANNAM mmn MANNOOCH
3)  birth Jun qtr 1924 Islington vol 1b p502 HANNAM mmn MANNOOCH
4)  birth Dec qtr 1928 Islington vol 1b p392 HANNAM mmn MANNOCH
5)  birth Mar qtr 1936 Islington vol 1b p354 HANNAM mmn MANNEECH

I am sending PMs to David Van Coolwijk and fulliautomatix (to avoid naming possibly living relatives on a public forum)

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Re: Finding relatives of missing airgunner
« Reply #80 on: Wednesday 06 June 18 18:33 BST (UK) »

Possible marriages on FreeBMD for William R LOUTH (and variants)
marriage Sep qtr 1939 Leicester vol 7a p857 LOUTH William R & HUNTER Kathleen I

Philip

Kathleen J? Louth married James McCaskell Sept Q 1947 Leicester 3a 1891.  So what happened to her first husband William R Louth?  Died in WW2?
I believe she was Kathleen Ivy Hunter, she is with her first husband William R Louth in 1939 in Leicester, she is listed as Ivy K Louth.

From what I found, I think William and Kathleen must have been divorced before 1944 (for William to marry Faith W), then in 1947 Kathleen married again.

anyway - as that William married (again) in 1944 he can't be our airman who died in 1943.

Philip

I think William R Louth who married Kathleen is still a possibility for our airman.  There are 2 William R Louth/Lowth's living in Leicester in 1939.

William R Louth (b. 17.11.1913) with wife Kathleen.  Need to search for a birth reg for him as he is not the one with mmn MAYFIELD, see below.  Could he be the one born in West Bromwich?  The birth date fits.

William R Lowth (b. 07.12.1911) unmarried man living in the same house as widowed Faith W Lowth - this is the couple who go on to marry in 1944.
He is this man, birth Mar qtr 1912 Leicester vol 7a p321  LOWTH William Robert mmn MAYFIELD.
William married Faith Lowth in 1944, his deceased brother's widow. His brother was Nathan Lowth - mmn MAYFIELD.  He is not our man as he was still alive in 1944.
Robbins - Wolverhampton.
Spooner - Monmouthshire & Wolverhampton.
Warner & Loundes - Dudley/West Bromwich.
Dod(g)son - Heysham/Liverpool/Wolverhampton