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Re: Searching for Parents of George Randall (born around 1823)
« Reply #90 on: Wednesday 06 June 18 00:25 BST (UK) »
What clinched it for me was when you said George and Ellen had a child Martha Augusta, although I have not found any record or her birth yet.

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Re: Searching for Parents of George Randall (born around 1823)
« Reply #91 on: Wednesday 06 June 18 00:58 BST (UK) »
I agree with you, but I'd like to find a record of our George's birth date in a document in Australia to be absolutely sure we have the right one. I can't find a record of it anywhere and now I'm trying to find historical publican licences to see if it's recorded on his licences, but I'm not having much luck.

I've just found a note about Martha Augusta attached to the back of the information my distant cousin wrote about her and this may explain why we've had no luck finding her birth record. I quote from the note:

"In a hand written document found amongst personal papers after the death of Gladys Ruby Locke daughter of Walter Randall, (brother of Martha Augusta) it lists the birth dates of the children of George Randall and Ellen Janeway. Although some of the dates are not correct with the actual day, they are, on the whole, fairly accurate and in my opinion can serve as a guide where no details survived. It states that Martha Augusta Randall was born in Adelaide 21 August 1857. This year seems unlikely when you compare details on later documents (wedding, death certificates). It's more likely to have been 1851, particularly in light of the fact that no record of the birth is available from the pioneer index of South Australia. I was told that there had been a fire and some records from the Mt Barker area had been destroyed. This may account for the fact that no record for either Martha Augusta or her sister Ellen appears."

So it seems that some of the dates of the births of George and Ellen's children that my cousin has recorded have been taken from my Aunty Glady's notes.

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Re: Searching for Parents of George Randall (born around 1823)
« Reply #92 on: Wednesday 06 June 18 01:24 BST (UK) »
More about George: My brother called in yesterday and I asked him what he knew about George coming to Australia. He said George brought his father's ship out and sold it because his father hadn't given him any money. From what we were told, George was supposed to return to England with the ship. My brother also said George arrived in Fremantle, Western Australia. So I began searching for him there. The strange part is I can't find a record of George arriving on any passenger lists anywhere. I did find a convict record, have posted the image. And I found a listing in the newspaper, The Perth Gazette and Western Australian Journal for a schooner (Timbo) and its cargo being sold by a Mr Randall, image posted below. However, the dates don't match with what we know and on further investigation it appears that the name associated with the Timbo is C Randall.

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Re: Searching for Parents of George Randall (born around 1823)
« Reply #93 on: Wednesday 06 June 18 02:12 BST (UK) »
Theres a Martha Augusta Randall marrying John Melean, Victoria 1872. Could this be her?


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Re: Searching for Parents of George Randall (born around 1823)
« Reply #94 on: Wednesday 06 June 18 03:06 BST (UK) »
That's her! This is the record my cousin has: Married 1872, James John McLean at Seymour, Victoria.
You're so good at this - I couldn't find the marriage record when I searched.

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Re: Searching for Parents of George Randall (born around 1823)
« Reply #95 on: Wednesday 06 June 18 03:14 BST (UK) »
Perhaps you can get the cert. to make sure she is George's Martha.  The convict I don't think is him.

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Re: Searching for Parents of George Randall (born around 1823)
« Reply #96 on: Wednesday 06 June 18 03:17 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that, I didn't think he was a convict either  :)

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Re: Searching for Parents of George Randall (born around 1823)
« Reply #97 on: Wednesday 06 June 18 03:25 BST (UK) »
Yes it is her...

Name    Martha Augusta Mclean
Mother    Ellen
Father    George
Death    Liverpool, New South Wales 1940

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Re: Searching for Parents of George Randall (born around 1823)
« Reply #98 on: Wednesday 06 June 18 03:30 BST (UK) »
That's excellent! Thank you! I found her marriage record in the Victorian BDM, the same as you found I think, but can't see how to buy the certificate. I thought George's birth date and place of birth might be on it. I'll keep looking when I get a chance. I've neglected too much with looking for George's info.